Hey guys, remember the launch carbine from H3?

#31Kage-No_KazePosted 11/19/2012 12:53:27 AM
Then there'd be the problem of not being able to counter the people who have DMRs and such when you spawn
#32Demon SlicerPosted 11/19/2012 12:54:23 AM
SeikenZ posted...
Demon Slicer posted...
SeikenZ posted...
Assault Rifle starts are way more fun imo.


God no.


I don't see anything wrong with it, there would still be Carbines, BR's and DMR's to pick up on the map. It's just not overkill on long range precision combat as it is now where everybody spawns with the best weapon basically.


There's simply not enough for everyone on your team, therefore someone has to get screwed.

Everyone spawns with the weapons that require the most skill, how it should be, and the long range issue is a product of bad maps, not the weapons themselves.
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#33Urdnot_RuntPosted 11/19/2012 12:59:43 AM
RanmaRanma posted...
Lightrifle is the best long range precision weapon. It does not suck. DMR should NOT be nerfed. It feels great as is. Why make it feel worse? Buff the other guns instead. This isn't WoW, let's not nerf fun out of the game.


Freaking this.

Raise the ROF on the Carbine slightly

Decrease the reload time on the BR by 25%

Now the carbine kills significantly faster than the DMR IF your trigger finger is fast enough AND you can hit every shot. And the BR gets an advantage in short range by having less downtime in reload. Both guns have situations where they outshine the DMR, the game becomes more interesting, and the DMR remains the better of the 3 at range.


Why would you subtract awesomeness for the sake of balance when you can ADD awesomeness to achieve the same thing.
#34Demon SlicerPosted 11/19/2012 1:09:42 AM(edited)
Urdnot_Runt posted...
RanmaRanma posted...
Lightrifle is the best long range precision weapon. It does not suck. DMR should NOT be nerfed. It feels great as is. Why make it feel worse? Buff the other guns instead. This isn't WoW, let's not nerf fun out of the game.


Freaking this.

Raise the ROF on the Carbine slightly

Decrease the reload time on the BR by 25%

Now the carbine kills significantly faster than the DMR IF your trigger finger is fast enough AND you can hit every shot. And the BR gets an advantage in short range by having less downtime in reload. Both guns have situations where they outshine the DMR, the game becomes more interesting, and the DMR remains the better of the 3 at range.


Why would you subtract awesomeness for the sake of balance when you can ADD awesomeness to achieve the same thing.


Reducing BR reload time would do nothing. It'd still be outclassed by the DMR. The Carbine buff would make all the other guns useless since it would have the fastest kill time at all ranges(much like the DMR does now, with the exception of the Light Rifle at long range).
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#35zeroboboPosted 11/19/2012 1:06:22 AM
Urdnot_Runt posted...
RanmaRanma posted...
Lightrifle is the best long range precision weapon. It does not suck. DMR should NOT be nerfed. It feels great as is. Why make it feel worse? Buff the other guns instead. This isn't WoW, let's not nerf fun out of the game.


Freaking this.

Raise the ROF on the Carbine slightly

Decrease the reload time on the BR by 25%

Now the carbine kills significantly faster than the DMR IF your trigger finger is fast enough AND you can hit every shot. And the BR gets an advantage in short range by having less downtime in reload. Both guns have situations where they outshine the DMR, the game becomes more interesting, and the DMR remains the better of the 3 at range.


Why would you subtract awesomeness for the sake of balance when you can ADD awesomeness to achieve the same thing.


how would decreasing the reload time on the BR do anything? like....at all. its not like its reload is any slower than anything else, a slightly faster reload time would do nothing.
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#36Legendary_MusasPosted 11/19/2012 1:13:57 AM
Reduce the DMR's rof but slightly increase the damage. That way you can escape if you are being pot shotted from the other side of the map but it still kills fairly quick as long as you have precision.
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#37zeroboboPosted 11/19/2012 1:18:02 AM
the best way to balance the DMR is to reduce its "red range".
where the crosshair turns red. make it the same as the BR. so they dont get the auto aim assist at super long range, but you can still kill from that range if you aim well.

i know cus i do it all the time with my BR on ragnarok.

for some reason the DMR has almost double the red range of any other starting weapon, which is ridiculous. so bringing that in line with the other weapons keeps the DMRs functionability the same. skilled users can still get really long range kills with it, but it discourages average to bad players from taking accross the map potshots cus they have the red aim assist at unreasonable ranges.
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#38iXCelticXiPosted 11/19/2012 1:25:33 AM
It was better in beta. Too good. Beta Carbine reminded me of the H1 pistol for some reason.
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#39Urdnot_RuntPosted 11/19/2012 1:33:21 AM(edited)
Demon Slicer posted...
Urdnot_Runt posted...
RanmaRanma posted...
Lightrifle is the best long range precision weapon. It does not suck. DMR should NOT be nerfed. It feels great as is. Why make it feel worse? Buff the other guns instead. This isn't WoW, let's not nerf fun out of the game.


Freaking this.

Raise the ROF on the Carbine slightly

Decrease the reload time on the BR by 25%

Now the carbine kills significantly faster than the DMR IF your trigger finger is fast enough AND you can hit every shot. And the BR gets an advantage in short range by having less downtime in reload. Both guns have situations where they outshine the DMR, the game becomes more interesting, and the DMR remains the better of the 3 at range.


Why would you subtract awesomeness for the sake of balance when you can ADD awesomeness to achieve the same thing.


Reducing BR reload time would do nothing. It'd still be outclassed by the DMR. The Carbine buff would make all the other guns useless since it would have the fastest kill time at all ranges(much like the DMR does now).


Actually, the BR and Carbine both already have faster kill times than the DMR, when assuming 100% accuracy. The problem is that you have to hit with more bullets.

The carbine buff wouldn't make other guns useless because it would only increase the ROF enough that you could miss once and still have a chance to beat the DMR. The reload speed increase for the BR will let you put out more damage over time than the DMR than it already does and if you get in a fight with a DMR you're at less of a disadvantage if you have to reload than the DMR user is if he has to reload.
#40Wookie_Is_BackPosted 11/19/2012 1:32:38 AM
Urdnot_Runt posted...
RanmaRanma posted...
Lightrifle is the best long range precision weapon. It does not suck. DMR should NOT be nerfed. It feels great as is. Why make it feel worse? Buff the other guns instead. This isn't WoW, let's not nerf fun out of the game.



Raise the ROF on the Carbine slightly



Your trigger finger sets the rate of fire. It fires as fast as you can shoot.

Why do you insist on diggin yourself into holes when you try to talk about this game?