Who would win, the Covenant or the Empire?

#41JFKandLBJPosted 2/23/2013 12:15:48 AM
Exar Kun's spirit>Covenant.
#42Arok2092Posted 2/23/2013 12:20:12 AM
truesaiyan309 posted...
The Empire is way larger. All of halo takes places in a fraction of the galaxy. In Star Wars every inch of the galaxy is known.


I just have to point out that this isn't true. There is a rather large patch of the Star Wars Galaxy that is labeled the Unknown Region.
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#43JFKandLBJPosted 2/23/2013 12:34:14 AM
Only cuz it isn't along any major hyperspace or trade routes. Stuff still happens there. The Jedi get their crystals from Illum. And I am sure the Sith take vacations there when they are being brutally hunted by the Jedi and the Republic. I think Revan might've gone there too. Not to sure about that one.
#44Arok2092Posted 2/23/2013 12:53:50 AM
JFKandLBJ posted...
Only cuz it isn't along any major hyperspace or trade routes. Stuff still happens there. The Jedi get their crystals from Illum. And I am sure the Sith take vacations there when they are being brutally hunted by the Jedi and the Republic. I think Revan might've gone there too. Not to sure about that one.


Right, but it's still largely uncharted and highly volatile. People do go there, but it is to difficult to accurately chart. Obviously this is all for lore reasons though.
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#45lderivedxPosted 2/23/2013 12:56:51 AM
A missile boat would devastate covie fighters and light cruisers.
#46JFKandLBJPosted 2/23/2013 1:11:59 AM
Well, since it has been well established now that the Empire is better than the Covenant, I say we move onto more interesting scenarios.

Mandalorians Vs Spartan

Rakata Vs Forerunners

Lightsabers Vs Energy Swords


So many to choose from...
#47Arok2092Posted 2/23/2013 1:26:52 AM
JFKandLBJ posted...
Well, since it has been well established now that the Empire is better than the Covenant, I say we move onto more interesting scenarios.

Mandalorians Vs Spartan

Rakata Vs Forerunners

Lightsabers Vs Energy Swords


So many to choose from...


Spartans cause they have tons of formal training. Mandalorian seems to be more of a lifestyle choice.

This one is tough. Rakata enslaved almost every sentient race in Star Wars. But then collapsed to one planet and killed each other to effective extinction. Forerunners were immensely powerful but committed virtual suicide to kill off a heavy duty parasite. I'm gonna go with Forerunners though.

Lightsabers. All the way.
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#48imthestuntmanPosted 2/23/2013 1:56:28 AM
JFKandLBJ posted...
Well, since it has been well established now that the Empire is better than the Covenant, I say we move onto more interesting scenarios.

Mandalorians Vs Spartan

Rakata Vs Forerunners

Lightsabers Vs Energy Swords


So many to choose from...


For spartans vs mandolorians i feel it is only fair to give even weapons access since it is fairly easy to determine star wars weapons massively outclass halo ones. From there regardless of armor it is safe to say spartans win. That level of enhancement just cant be competed with.

Forerunners probably. I dont have the figures in front of me for either of the groups, so this one is more of a guess, but i am fairly certain if you give me 10 minutes of googling and 2 hours of sleep (its 4 am) i could prove this.

Lightsabers vs energy swords is lightsaber purely because it is a more practical design.
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#49JFKandLBJPosted 2/23/2013 2:44:49 AM
I don't think the Mandolrians Vs. Spartan one is so cut and dry. The Mandos had some shield technology. Granted, I don't think it was rechargeable but it was there. They were also capable of hunting huge monsters like Zakkeg or even beig notorious Jedi Killers, which would be a considerable feat. When you consider that they were comprised of many aliens rather that some human recruits, they also gain a significant increase in numbers. I still think a Spartan would win vs a Mando though just because the Spartan is offered superior strength, speed, and control as well as protection through his suit. But I think it would be a good fight at least.

Anybody ever play Republic Commandos? Could have been better, but LucasArts really could of had something going with a FPS, especially since there won't be a SW:BFIII.

Lightsaber wins vs any weapon any day of the week.
#50SterlingFoxPosted 2/23/2013 2:58:24 AM
Why does it seem that we have to constantly establish that the Star Wars universe is the most overpowered Sci-Fi universe available?

With the statistical numbers of the Empire's weaponry, shielding, etc., a single Tie-Fighter could solo an entire Covenant Fleet. Each one of those laser shots from their guns is the equivalent of 2 kilotons of explosives, and they can fire 480 times per minute. And that's just a Tie-Fighter, to which the Empire has thousands.


"The covenant can glass planet! Blah blah blah"

Some of the weaponry on bigger ships in Star Wars get to be as powerful as over 90 GIGAtons of explosives.
To put it this way, if something like that hit the Earth it would turn Europe into a crater. The blast would kill everything within 4000 miles of the impact site instantly, and would inflect third-degree burns on anything within 21,000 miles of the impact site.
A single shot from one of those ships would make a planet uninhabitable. And these guns can fire every 2 seconds.

And then the Death Star's laser fires with the force of a small Supernova. Not only would it destroy a planet, but realistically it could destroy a large Star and it would destroy a entire Solar System if fired.

And then just the ability to travel quickly is in favor of the Empire, because all of their ships can make FTL jumps over any distance in the blink of an eye, and it doesn't take days or weeks in Slipspace to travel the distance like it does for the Covenant.


"The covenant could kill Stormtroopers hur dur dur"

In terms of ground forces, each one of the Star Wars blaster pistols could one-shot an aircraft carrier and their armor could deflect a hit from a Spartan Laser. Blaster Pistols basically carry the force of a ship's cannons in Halo.

The covenant would get stomped, completely. Humanity would get stomped completely. The Forerunners would get stomped completely. There is no correct argument that can say otherwise. And the only people who say otherwise are people who don't understand the argument at all.
We have (stupidly) been given hard numbers for all the weaponry in Star Wars, and it is extremely bull**** overpowered. But that is what it is. Not even the Warhammer 40k universe, which is intentionally overpowered, can hold a candle to it.
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