Who would win, the Covenant or the Empire?

#51JFKandLBJPosted 2/23/2013 3:08:51 AM
SterlingFox posted...
Why does it seem that we have to constantly establish that the Star Wars universe is the most overpowered Sci-Fi universe available?

With the statistical numbers of the Empire's weaponry, shielding, etc., a single Tie-Fighter could solo an entire Covenant Fleet. Each one of those laser shots from their guns is the equivalent of 2 kilotons of explosives, and they can fire 480 times per minute. And that's just a Tie-Fighter, to which the Empire has thousands.


"The covenant can glass planet! Blah blah blah"

Some of the weaponry on bigger ships in Star Wars get to be as powerful as over 90 GIGAtons of explosives.
To put it this way, if something like that hit the Earth it would turn Europe into a crater. The blast would kill everything within 4000 miles of the impact site instantly, and would inflect third-degree burns on anything within 21,000 miles of the impact site.
A single shot from one of those ships would make a planet uninhabitable. And these guns can fire every 2 seconds.

And then the Death Star's laser fires with the force of a small Supernova. Not only would it destroy a planet, but realistically it could destroy a large Star and it would destroy a entire Solar System if fired.

And then just the ability to travel quickly is in favor of the Empire, because all of their ships can make FTL jumps over any distance in the blink of an eye, and it doesn't take days or weeks in Slipspace to travel the distance like it does for the Covenant.


"The covenant could kill Stormtroopers hur dur dur"

In terms of ground forces, each one of the Star Wars blaster pistols could one-shot an aircraft carrier and their armor could deflect a hit from a Spartan Laser. Blaster Pistols basically carry the force of a ship's cannons in Halo.

The covenant would get stomped, completely. Humanity would get stomped completely. The Forerunners would get stomped completely. There is no correct argument that can say otherwise. And the only people who say otherwise are people who don't understand the argument at all.
We have (stupidly) been given hard numbers for all the weaponry in Star Wars, and it is extremely bull**** overpowered. But that is what it is. Not even the Warhammer 40k universe, which is intentionally overpowered, can hold a candle to it.


Finally someone makes logical sense! Lucas is the brainchild the most overly gratuitous, abundant, and overly-scaled powerhouses of all time. And to top everything you just said, The Sith would be Gods to anybody in the Halo universe! Simply no comparison.
#52ZeldaMutantPosted 2/23/2013 6:35:08 AM
SterlingFox posted...
In terms of ground forces, each one of the Star Wars blaster pistols could one-shot an aircraft carrier and their armor could deflect a hit from a Spartan Laser. Blaster Pistols basically carry the force of a ship's cannons in Halo..
I see. I suppose the couches on Mos Eisley Cantina are made out of battleship-grade durasteel?
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#53Taurus_VisPosted 2/23/2013 7:19:08 AM
Due to the Covenants ability to slip in close to objects, unlike dropping out of Hyperspace, which is very imprecise and needs to be done away from the celestial body to avoid hitting it, the covies would win. Imperials have shielding, that according to Star Wars canon, is extremely susceptible to plasma, the basis of all covie weapons.

The Death Star would be an easy target, a supercarrier could simply slip around to the back of the death star where it's turbo laser's would simply bounce of the supercarriers shields due to the fact it's a laser that strikes with kinetic force. The supercarrier would proceed to cut the Death star to pieces with it's TEN plasma emitters (glassing beams).

The rest of the star wars universe would be quite simple to obliterate due to the fact that Storm Troopers are occupation soldiers, more police than professional combatants, and the few Sith lords would be facing legions of soldiers who are trained in melee combat (Energy swords would clash with lightsabers, their pretty much explained the same way in both canons).

Now, If the Forerunners were involved, it would be comical. The Forerunner fortress ship could just fly right into the Death Star and take no damage.
#54Taurus_VisPosted 2/23/2013 7:32:46 AM
SterlingFox posted...
In terms of ground forces, each one of the Star Wars blaster pistols could one-shot an aircraft carrier and their armor could deflect a hit from a Spartan Laser. Blaster Pistols basically carry the force of a ship's cannons in Halo..


Ok, So it can deflect a hit from a Spartan Laser, but the Ewoks bow and arrows and Rocks pierce it.

You sir, are officially disqualified for blatant lies and fanboyism.
#55DvoloS88Posted 2/23/2013 7:38:35 AM
Tom cruise and the power of SCIENTOLOGY
#56bigboyhowdy2Posted 2/23/2013 8:20:39 AM
People who say Covenant are uneducated about Star Wars. Read up on lore, Empire ships are WAY faster. Weaponry in Star Wars is 10s if not 100s of times more powerful than anything in Halo..

Its not that I like Star Wars better, its just that the writers in star wars made everything bigger and better than the writers made things in Halo.

If it makes you feel better, Star Trek technology is wayyy more advanced than Star Wars.
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#57Aka76877035Posted 2/23/2013 9:32:15 AM
OmALY_03 posted...
Hunter2hunted posted...
Well, how about a new comparison; who's more inaccurate, stormtroopers or unsc marines( shooting dead bodies doesn't count)?


Marines hands down.

1. No one is worse than stormtroopers.
2. Have you seen what marines can do with a sniper in a moving warthog? Unreal.


Wait, it sounds like your saying the Marines are accurate... I'm not sure if you read the question correctly, it is "Who is more inaccurate" Forgive me if I am the one who is mistaken.
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#58krazyninjaman3Posted 2/23/2013 9:39:56 AM
The covies or the Ur-Quan Hierarchy from Star Control 2?
#59Morgoth the EnemyPosted 2/23/2013 9:53:23 AM
Got disagree on SW beating 40k, those guys roflstomp all sci-fi.
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#60imthestuntmanPosted 2/23/2013 10:22:02 AM
Taurus_Vis posted...
Due to the Covenants ability to slip in close to objects, unlike dropping out of Hyperspace, which is very imprecise and needs to be done away from the celestial body to avoid hitting it, the covies would win. Imperials have shielding, that according to Star Wars canon, is extremely susceptible to plasma, the basis of all covie weapons.

The Death Star would be an easy target, a supercarrier could simply slip around to the back of the death star where it's turbo laser's would simply bounce of the supercarriers shields due to the fact it's a laser that strikes with kinetic force. The supercarrier would proceed to cut the Death star to pieces with it's TEN plasma emitters (glassing beams). .


Technically under the empire one has to consider grand admiral thrawn, who was a master at dropping ships in and out of hyperspace strategically. Meaning that the disadvantage you sight because of hyperspace is essentially null.

And yes these shields were shown on individual snubfighters to be insufficient to really deal with plasma based weaponry, but one has to consider capital ships dealing with it far better. If imperial star destroyers were as weak against these weapons as possible the lusankya would have been oblitterated when it dropped out of hyperspace in the middle of a yuuzhan vong fleet. But it wasnt. It oblitered the entire thing. If it was as weak to these weapons as you seem to think it woud have been destroyed fairly quickly.

A covenant ship has 10 guns on it? That is laughable. Star destroyers have hundreds. And these have been shown to be manitudes more powerful than covenant weaponry, and by comparison of the efficiency of glassing (the numbers supplied by the halo universe show it would take 2000 covenant ships 30 years to glass Earth) versus a single base delta zero (a single star destroyer can make a planet unlivable ina matter of hours) and there really is no comparison.

More efficient and more powerful weapons on bigger ships wins.
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Stormtroopers can shoot straight, the Tantive IV is evidence of this. Luke, Leia, Han, and Chewbacca all just have plot armor.