Ultimate Zelda Riddles Returns Episode 17: Argorok

#61Paper_Mario_4Posted 11/12/2012 3:16:45 PM
Is the answer Hyrule itself?
#62Zion426Posted 11/12/2012 3:18:34 PM
Is that a small detail? I think not.
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#63Paper_Mario_4Posted 11/12/2012 7:19:29 PM
Zion426 posted...
Is that a small detail? I think not.


The thing "surrounding" the very forces of nature is the part that throws me off. I thought even outer space is a force of nature is it not? So what can "surround" that?

Nevertheless, this is one intense riddle...

I must think some more before guessing.
#64Paper_Mario_4Posted 11/12/2012 7:26:28 PM
Zion426 posted...
Nope. I'm liking this logic, though. You guys are thinking, and it shows.

So, as a reward, here's another stanza!


OoT

I have what the hero can never have,
All must go through me before the world can be saved,
I surround the very forces of nature,
In the forefront of everyone's mind, I am second of all,
And yet, without me, nothing would change.

I have one cousin.
It does not have what I have.
It does not match my scope, nor my power.
And yet, it is directly in the center of another force of nature-
One over which I do not have direct control.


You know, after reading this a dozen times or so, I really doubt that the answer behind this riddle will add up to all this writing. And if it does, then you sir, are a genius.
#65Zion426Posted 11/12/2012 9:16:57 PM(edited)
Paper_Mario_4 posted...
You know, after reading this a dozen times or so, I really doubt that the answer behind this riddle will add up to all this writing.


I'm not entirely certain what you mean by this.

Of course the answer makes sense with every line to me-if it didn't, I wouldn't have written it that way.

Then again, what I think is logical sense may be a stretch to someone else. So try to think of every possible angle.

Anyway, to help out, I am not considering space a force of nature here. You can stick to Earth for this one.

Also, if it wasn't clear, line 1 of the first stanza and line 2 of the second are talking about the same thing.
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#66Paper_Mario_4Posted 11/12/2012 10:13:31 PM
Phantom Ganon?
#67Zion426Posted 11/12/2012 11:01:53 PM
Nope. Not a small enough detail.
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#68Silfalas(Topic Creator)Posted 11/13/2012 9:58:15 AM(edited)
Maybe the lift in the Forest temple that requires the 4 flames?

I have what the hero can never have, - a purple flame. Link has a red, green and blue flames/ lights in the game.
All must go through me before the world can be saved, - self. exp counting Phantom Ganon as the image of the final boss
I surround the very forces of nature, - kind of self exp too
In the forefront of everyone's mind, I am second of all, - not too sure. Everyone is more interested in the flames before they realize it is a lift
And yet, without me, nothing would change. - the different pictures in the temple wouldn't have the ghost images, for example

I have one cousin.
It does not have what I have.
It does not match my scope, nor my power.
And yet, it is directly in the center of another force of nature-
One over which I do not have direct control. - maybe a reference to the TP torches

If not the purple ghost in said temple or just the torches.
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#69Zion426Posted 11/13/2012 2:11:41 PM
Nope. The related thing talked about in the second part is in the same game.
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#70iKhanicPosted 11/13/2012 3:17:12 PM
Is it the elemental barriers to Ganon's Tower?
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