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In pretty much every topic that's been created about the timeline recently, there's this one argument that keeps being brought up:

"The timeline doesn't mean anything. The developers constantly contradict themselves about how the chronology works. Their positions change with every single game and interview. I'm sure the next game will make the Hyrule Historia timeline impossible."

Where are all of these inconsistencies that you people are seeing?
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Well they used to say the pre-OoT games were canon but apparently that's not the case anymore.
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LordAlistair posted...

Well they used to say the pre-OoT games were canon but apparently that's not the case anymore.

The other problem: People seem to be completely incapable of grasping the idea of multiple canons.

The Downfall Timeline and the Child/Adult Timelines are equally canon.
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Somebody posted a video about imagining the tenth dimension at one point. I suggest watching that one. 4-5 dimensions explain multiple realities. Really interesting, yet abstract video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqeqW3g8N2Q

There have been a few times where it's apparent that they changed the timeline based on content in a new game. Most notably the Oracle games were inserted between A Link to the Past and Link's Awakening. They made it work by making the ending of the Oracle games match up with the backstory of Link's Awakening but it's pretty clear that when Link's Awakening was originally made they were thinking of A Link to the Past as its backstory, not some games that hadn't come out yet. The failure timeline is also a pretty big change from what people assumed (particularly since Four Swords Adventures seems to be trying to provide some background for A Link to the Past) but it is actually somewhat supported by the story of the Imprisoning War in A Link to the Past not quite matching up with what happened in OoT.
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Kayube posted...

There have been a few times where it's apparent that they changed the timeline based on content in a new game. Most notably the Oracle games were inserted between A Link to the Past and Link's Awakening. They made it work by making the ending of the Oracle games match up with the backstory of Link's Awakening but it's pretty clear that when Link's Awakening was originally made they were thinking of A Link to the Past as its backstory, not some games that hadn't come out yet.

Link's Awakening's backstory was that Link went on adventures after defeating Ganon and then was shipwrecked on his way back to Hyrule.

The Oracle games are those adventures.

That's like saying the addition of a game about the flood "changed the timeline" because originally Ocarina of Time was the backstory of The Wind Waker.

Addition =/= change.

The stuff you mentioned is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about actual factual errors in developer interviews or the games themselves.
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Oh, okay. I figured what they did was make the "defeating Ganon" you mentioned be the end of the Oracle games instead of A Link to the Past. But that way makes sense too. Other than that I can't think of any reason people would think things changed between games, with the exception of some mistakes in the original English translation of the manual to A Link to the Past that made it seem like the Master Sword was made in response to Ganon's appearance when in fact it already existed.
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Twinrova is alive in the Oracles to try to revive Ganon after OoT Link killed them before being killed by Ganon in OoT.

That's the only thing I can think of.
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Someone mentioned something in some other topic. If they see this maybe they can answer. What exactly does Hyrule Historia say that definitely proves that they mean for OoT Twinrova and Oracles Twinrova to be the exact same witches still alive after all those many many many centuries instead of just being a new set of witches? Whoever it was that said something about it said something about them being Ganon's "foster mother", but that was only ever said about OoT Twinrova. Nothing has been said about Oracles Twinrova. The witches in the Oracles just... are what they are. No background. Not from what I've seen, anyway.

And as I recall (granted, a lot of FSA seems to have slipped from my mind after I finished it) FSA Ganon was raised by the whole Gerudo tribe in general, not by the witches or any other specific Gerudo. He was raised by the entire community and they all tried to encourage him to live a good life and he turned evil despite their care, as opposed to OoT Ganon specifically being raised evil by Twinrova. That's part of how we were so sure before it had been confirmed that FSA was introducing a new Ganon. They gave this one a slightly different background instead of reinstating exactly the same background. (edit: I don't know why I just went off on that tangent. That wasn't relevant to the Oracles.... not with the placements in the canon timeline.)

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Muljo Stpho posted...

Someone mentioned something in some other topic. If they see this maybe they can answer. What exactly does Hyrule Historia say that definitely proves that they mean for OoT Twinrova and Oracles Twinrova to be the exact same witches still alive after all those many many many centuries instead of just being a new set of witches? Whoever it was that said something about it said something about them being Ganon's "foster mother", but that was only ever said about OoT Twinrova. Nothing has been said about Oracles Twinrova. The witches in the Oracles just... are what they are. No background. Not from what I've seen, anyway.

Hyrule Historia explicitly states that the witches in OoX are Ganon's foster mothers.
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