Observations on the Japanese Fanbase's Desires for Smash 4...

#1SnakeyPosted 12/9/2012 6:05:11 PM(edited)
Here are my latest observations on what I have seen on Japanese forums, websites, and blogs when the topic of Smash 4 comes up.

Mario: Surprisingly, there is little demand for a Mario newcomer. Requests come up for nearly every Mario character, but each one of them does not have much requests.

Donkey Kong: K. Rool is amongst the most requested newcomers outside the cut Melee duo. Dixie Kong is also highly requested.

The Legend of Zelda: Its Ghirahim. After that its Toon Zelda. Tingle rarely comes up. Its important to note that Skyward Sword was by far the lowest selling 3D Zelda in Japan.

Metroid: Metroid requests rarely come up. However, I have seen posts mentioning Ridley's "overseas popularity".

Yoshi: Yoshi requests never come up.

Kirby: Waddle Dee (Bandanna). Before Return to Dream Land's release, it seemed that Gooey was the choice in regards to a fourth playable Kirby character.

Star Fox: Requests are uncommon, but when they do come up its usually Krystal, Leon, or Slippy. None of these characters have a notable amount of request volume.

Pokemon: Mewtwo is one of the two most requested characters. After him, its probably Zoroark for this series. Zoroark is definitely one of the names that comes up a lot, but how much of this is "expected" versus actually "wanted" is hard to determine. Requests also come up for B/W Trainer, Victini, and most recently Genesect. Genesect has a lot of potential to grow, imo.

F-Zero: Requests for a F-Zero newcomer usually go to Black Shadow. A lot of people want Black Shadow to be voiced by Norio Wakamoto.

Mother: Requests are uncommon, but when it does happen I usually see Kumatora.

Fire Emblem: Roy is one of the two most requested characters. After him, its Chrom for this series. Chrom is definitely one of the names that comes up a lot, but how much of this is "expected" versus actually "wanted" is hard to determine. A distant third is Lucina, who recently has taken up the mantle as the most wanted female Fire Emblem newcomer (that tiara last belonged to Micaiah over there). However, there is a debate amongst Lucina supporters whether her place would be better as a costume of Marth or a stand-alone character.

Kid Icarus: Palutena is the only character of this series that gets a large amount of requests. However, Palutena is definitely amongst the most wanted characters outside the cut Melee duo.

Pikmin: Pikmin requests never happen.

Wario: Wario requests never happen.

Retro: Retro requests are surprisingly uncommon. However, when it does happen its usually Takamaru.

Other: Shulk gets quite a lot of requests. Shulk is easily the most requested Nintendo character from a series not represented yet with a playable character in Smash Bros. A distant second would be Starfy. There are several Japanese Smash fans that mention Punch-Out and Little Mac's "overseas" popularity. Isaac (Robin in Japan) and Matthew get few requests. Saki and Isa also get few requests.

Third-party: Mega Man is by far the most requested third-party character, and the only one that comes up a lot. Mega Man is definitely amonst the most wanted characters outside the cut Melee duo. Aside from Mega Man, there is a lot of arguing and flame wars in regards to Namco. There is arguing not just about whether a Namco character should even be added, but amongst those who think one should be added there is no consensus. There are flame wars about which Tekken and Tales of character would be best for Smash Bros.

Here is a basic tier list amongst the characters that tend to get the most requests:

S:
Mewtwo
Roy

A:
Mega Man
Palutena
Shulk
K. Rool

B:
Dixie Kong
Chrom
Zoroark
Waddle Dee

To Be Continued
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#2Snakey(Topic Creator)Posted 12/9/2012 5:56:00 PM
Continued:

After that there is a large dropoff, and its quite difficult to group. However, most of the character requests are with these characters.

Also, its important noting that Toad is very popular in Japan, though this does not translate to Smash Bros. requests since these is a deep pessimism that his permanent role in the Smash Bros. series is as Peach's special. If such pessimism did not exist, Toad would definitely be amongst the most wanted newcomers for Smash 4 in Japan (possibly in the A-tier range).

That is pretty much what I saw. Sakurai has probably already decided most of the spots on the roster.
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#3ViewtifulGenePosted 12/9/2012 5:59:43 PM
I'd be OK if the people in your sample decided the roster.

I'm surprised Tingle is somewhat ignored in your sample.
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#4Kooky_von_KoopaPosted 12/9/2012 6:01:29 PM
This pleases me a lot!!! Watching Mewtwo and Roy on Top is the best thing I have ever seen! Hopefully the requests keep going and Sakurai sees we still love Mewtwo and Roy. I am pretty happy to see Megaman requested, and about Tales vs. Tekken, please bring on a Tekken character, after Tekken Tag Tournament 2, which Tekken characters were disguised as Nintendo characters, I can totally see a Tekken newcomer in this game, but Tales? Oh God no keep that trash out of Smash. Hopefully all the newcomers are the one you listed here.

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#5Blazekicker27Posted 12/9/2012 6:02:29 PM
Is there any particular reason people don't request Tingle?
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#6MichaelollPosted 12/9/2012 6:03:35 PM
love everything on here but mewtwo. other than that, i wouldn't mind these additions to the roster, considering how little and simple they are
#7Snakey(Topic Creator)Posted 12/9/2012 6:04:22 PM
ViewtifulGene posted...
I'd be OK if the people in your sample decided the roster.

I'm surprised Tingle is somewhat ignored in your sample.


I have never seen Tingle get a lot of requests in Japan, even during pre-Brawl. Toon Link (called "Cat Eyes Link" in Japan during pre-Brawl, was the Zelda character that had the most requests during pre-Brawl).

The second Tingle RPG did not sell in Japan. The Zelda series in general has been selling less and less in Japan outside of the DS titles (maybe that's why Toon Zelda is the runner-up for the Zelda series?).
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#8PlasmaCannonPosted 12/9/2012 6:04:58 PM
Lip and Panel de Pon?
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#9Snakey(Topic Creator)Posted 12/9/2012 6:08:06 PM
PlasmaCannon posted...
Lip and Panel de Pon?


Unfortunately, as I mentioned retro requests are uncommon from what I have seen. Lip and Panel de Pon does not come up much. Lip comes up slightly more than Sukapon and Prince Sabure, but still does not come up much at all. Panel de Pon still has a cult following in Japan, however, Intelligent Systems doing nothing with the series since 2007 might be the main culprit behind the lack of interest for Lip this time.

Takamaru is the most requested retro character, but as I said, retro characters usually don't come up.
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#10MichaelollPosted 12/9/2012 6:08:36 PM
Snakey, why aren't tetra nor ghirahim on your rank list,

and another question x]

When you said the mario reps are equally talked about although uncommon, is this

daisy bowser jr. toad waluigi rosalina and paper mario? i jsut want to know which reps are the "equal ones"