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3 years ago#1
I been watching this board for awhile now. I have been wondering what do you all really want when it comes to adding more depth (than previous installments)?
I already know about the increase in speed, but you can mention it if you like.
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3 years ago#2
Hitstun.
Pichu and such.
Nanocarp and such.
3 years ago#3
Ghasts posted...
Hitstun.


How far you want to go with hitstun? A combo that leads to 50% damage, 100% damage, or guaranteed kill, please be specific.
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3 years ago#4
Ghasts posted...
Hitstun.


This is the main thing. Brawl's metagame is too defensive. 64 and Melee had enough of a hitstun for combos to be effective, and those are hella fun.
3 years ago#5
yamham63 posted...
Ghasts posted...
Hitstun.


This is the main thing. Brawl's metagame is too defensive. 64 and Melee had enough of a hitstun for combos to be effective, and those are hella fun.


I understand offensive play is rather weak unless you resort to characters like Metaknight. I believe they should balance offensive and defensive play.
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3 years ago#6
Rainbowgloom posted...
yamham63 posted...
Ghasts posted...
Hitstun.


This is the main thing. Brawl's metagame is too defensive. 64 and Melee had enough of a hitstun for combos to be effective, and those are hella fun.


I understand offensive play is rather weak unless you resort to characters like Metaknight. I believe they should balance offensive and defensive play.


Nah, I think it should 60/40 in favour of offensive play
3 years ago#7
ligersandtigons posted...
Rainbowgloom posted...
yamham63 posted...
Ghasts posted...
Hitstun.


This is the main thing. Brawl's metagame is too defensive. 64 and Melee had enough of a hitstun for combos to be effective, and those are hella fun.


I understand offensive play is rather weak unless you resort to characters like Metaknight. I believe they should balance offensive and defensive play.


Nah, I think it should 60/40 in favour of offensive play


Oddly enough, I would say 60/40 in favor of denfensive play. Mainly because I like reduce my opponents (in smash case, slowly or quickly raise their damage %) then kill them.
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3 years ago#8
Rainbowgloom posted...
ligersandtigons posted...
Rainbowgloom posted...
yamham63 posted...
Ghasts posted...
Hitstun.


This is the main thing. Brawl's metagame is too defensive. 64 and Melee had enough of a hitstun for combos to be effective, and those are hella fun.


I understand offensive play is rather weak unless you resort to characters like Metaknight. I believe they should balance offensive and defensive play.


Nah, I think it should 60/40 in favour of offensive play


Oddly enough, I would say 60/40 in favor of denfensive play. Mainly because I like reduce my opponents (in smash case, slowly or quickly raise their damage %) then kill them.


ultimately that is bad. it comes from characters being unable to approach and being camped, or abuse of range.
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3 years ago#9
@guedesbrawl

(Couldn't reply directly, new account limitation) That is understandable, probably a good reason for character balance. Also, need to give a speed boost to the slower characters such as ganondorf if you want to fair.
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3 years ago#10
Rainbowgloom posted...
ligersandtigons posted...
Rainbowgloom posted...
yamham63 posted...
Ghasts posted...
Hitstun.


This is the main thing. Brawl's metagame is too defensive. 64 and Melee had enough of a hitstun for combos to be effective, and those are hella fun.


I understand offensive play is rather weak unless you resort to characters like Metaknight. I believe they should balance offensive and defensive play.


Nah, I think it should 60/40 in favour of offensive play


Oddly enough, I would say 60/40 in favor of denfensive play. Mainly because I like reduce my opponents (in smash case, slowly or quickly raise their damage %) then kill them.


for ssb4, approaching should be encouraged in my opinion.

defensive mindset slows down the game
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