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Chrom can do but neither Ike nor Marth can? I want to better gauge how little potential he has to be unique. --- Palutena, Isaac, Ridley, King K. Rool, and Anna for SSB Wii U and SSB 3DS! "Mewtwo & Roy WILL return in this game" -Kooky_von_Koopa | |
Not an official source by any means, but I'm pretty sure that Chrom can uses lances and magic outside of his usual sword-based repertoire. Ike can definitely use swords and axes. --- http://i.imgur.com/qgqVy.jpg "Don't wanna know...where the sinners go..." | |
Doug314 posted... Chrom can do but neither Ike nor Marth can? Outside of what Marth and Ike do in Brawl, Chrom can: -Class change into a Cavalier (promotes to Paladin or Great Knight), an Archer (promotes to Sniper or Bow Knight), and a Dread Fighter (thanks to the Dread Scroll received from DLC). This opens up: Spears, axes, bows, magic, and being able to use a horse. Spears and axes can be used for some of his A attacks (and a B attack for throwing hand axes and javelins) and the bow, magic, and horse can be used as special attacks (the horse could work similarly to Wario's bike, except they could have Chrom use his weapons while riding it). -His game's biggest mechanic is the Pair Up feature, which could easily be represented in Brawl by having him pair up with another character (especially considering how the Ice Climbers had no such mechanic, yet they still have something similar). If he pairs up with MU/Avatar/Robin, then the two can work as a tag team and Robin can use magic for Chrom's special attacks. Robin has many classes open to him through class changing, so that also opens up potential for Chrom's moveset. -Chrom can be given his shield. If Sakurai feels like being creative, he can have Chrom shoot energy out of it or something. It's not like he hasn't changed other characters to work better for Smash (the biggest example of this being ZSS and her laser whip). I want to better gauge how little potential he has to be unique. We've gone over this several times. At this point, you're either trolling or you're just a moron. --- "It is such a quiet thing, to fall. But far more terrible is to admit it." - Kreia | |
Marth and Ike don't use lances. Marth and Ike don't have the partner mechanic. Marth and Ike can't change classes. Also, Marth doesn't use the Fire Emblem as a shield in his moveset even though he could, so that's fair game for Chrom. Also, any ideas for sword moves Sakurai has not already used are fair game for Chrom even if Marth and Ike could technically use them. It wouldn't be out of the question for Chrom to borrow moves from the series' ranged swords like the Levin Sword or Amatsu. --- "Once again, ViewtifulGene's logic blows minds and crushes dreams." -TheGamingGolfer "Supez teh king" -dedekong | |
So basically -more weapons types, which he'd probably use a sword if he got in so those are mostly pointless. Ike could use other weapon types and he never used them in brawl. And Chrom can't use them until he's promoted twice so the people that don't get super far into the game never see them, and DLC stuff especially seems ridiculous to be taking stuff from for Chrom. -He can use a shield. I guess that would give him a slightly different down B than Ike/Marth as in basically a counter that stops attacks for more frames but doesn't counterattack. That'd be really lame since the game is already far too defensive. We really shouldn't have complete defensive moves IMO. Or it could just be another counter. Not very exciting. -He can use new sword attacks. These would be inherently boring and too many of them would be too similar to either Marth or Ike. And I don't care how many times we've supposedly been over this. I've never been convinced Chrom would in any reasonably likely way be a fun character in this game. Just because you think he'd be good, doesn't mean that I do, or that he would be. In the end, he's the most overrated piece of trash that isn't 3rd party to ever have so much support around here. You all need to wake up and see the light that he is just so god awful and stop supporting such garbage. --- Palutena, Isaac, Ridley, King K. Rool, and Anna for SSB Wii U and SSB 3DS! "Mewtwo & Roy WILL return in this game" -Kooky_von_Koopa | |
Doug314 posted... So basicallyI like this guy. --- I am the cheese. I am the best character on the show. I am better than both the salami and the bologna combined. | |
He's basically the new Ike. That's just the way these Fire Emblem protagonists work. --- My latest Smash Bros 4 roster: http://oi46.tinypic.com/2rz99xx.jpg | |
Doug314 posted... -more weapons types, which he'd probably use a sword if he got in so those are mostly pointless. Ike could use other weapon types and he never used them in brawl. And Chrom can't use them until he's promoted twice so the people that don't get super far into the game never see them, and DLC stuff especially seems ridiculous to be taking stuff from for Chrom. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Ike only able to use axes in Radiant Dawn? That game was released in 2007 and Brawl started development in 2005. It could have easily been a Super Mario Galaxy-esque situation where Sakurai didn't know about it until after Ike was already in the game with a finalized moveset. That would also explain why Ike has his PoR appearance and not his RD one (it would also explain why Micaiah wasn't chosen over him or planned to be in alongside him). Either way, just because Ike didn't have axes in his Brawl moveset doesn't mean that Chrom would be forced to use a sword. May I also remind you that you asked for a list of things he could do, not what is and isn't likely? -He can use a shield. I guess that would give him a slightly different down B than Ike/Marth as in basically a counter that stops attacks for more frames but doesn't counterattack. That'd be really lame since the game is already far too defensive. We really shouldn't have complete defensive moves IMO. Or it could just be another counter. Not very exciting. Having a more defensive moveset would make him unique from Marth and Ike. You wanted to see if he could be unique. Whether or not you like it is irrelevant, isn't it? And I don't care how many times we've supposedly been over this. I've never been convinced Chrom would in any reasonably likely way be a fun character in this game. Just because you think he'd be good, doesn't mean that I do, or that he would be. The topic never asked for us to convince you he'd be good (which is mission im-****ing-possible anyway, considering how unbelievably biased you are against him), you simply questioned whether or not he has enough potential to be different from Marth and Ike... And people have answered this, like, 10 ****ing times. Just because you think (not know, think) that they wouldn't choose to make him different from Marth and Ike doesn't mean he doesn't have potential to be unique. In the end, he's the most overrated piece of trash that isn't 3rd party to ever have so much support around here. You all need to wake up and see the light that he is just so god awful and stop supporting such garbage. You need to wake up and realize that Anna also primarily uses a sword. If she can use staffs, then why can't Chrom use spears? Also, just because she holds her sword backwards doesn't mean she'd be drastically different from Marth and Ike. --- "It is such a quiet thing, to fall. But far more terrible is to admit it." - Kreia | |
He should weild lances. He could be in his great lord class. (He also carries the series namesake in this class) --- "They never understood you like I did, Snake. You're human, so its only right you go by your real name: David Hayter." *flips table* | |
Doug314 posted... So basically You have no proof that Chrom must use swords exclusively and you have no proof that a shield could only be used for down B. You have no proof that Sakurai has run out of sword moveset ideas either. You not liking Chrom does not prove it is unlikely for him to be fun to play as. In before somebody puts words in my mouth. I never took a position on likelihood either way. --- "Once again, ViewtifulGene's logic blows minds and crushes dreams." -TheGamingGolfer "Supez teh king" -dedekong |
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