Why do people think so many unlikely characters are shoo-ins?

#1Vaztor71Posted 3/30/2013 2:31:36 PM(edited)
Every time I come here I see talk of Waluigi, Toad, Bowser Jr, Daisy, Vaati, Skull Kid, Ridley, etc.

Everyone here acts like these characters are obvious candidates but if history is any indication, the absolute opposite is true. None of them possesses any real "all star" qualities you'd see from characters on the roster. Even the more obscure clone characters in Melee were often stars/critical characters representing their games. A lot of these characters don't even have strong relevance anymore compared to pre-Brawl days.

Character like Little Mac, Saki, Shulk, etc. are all way more likely to show up, but 90% of the time I come here, I just see the suggestions that been getting portrayed as "likely" since the days before Melee was released and never have and never will come to fruition.

I'm just saying, I don't want you guys to get your hopes up is all.
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#2harvestmoonmikePosted 3/30/2013 2:31:33 PM
Saki and Shulk? You serious?

They're niche to the extreme, not to mention they originated from outside studios and aren't worth a dang to Nintendo.
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#3Vaztor71(Topic Creator)Posted 3/30/2013 2:34:47 PM
But they represent a wider variety which is good for advertising, and character variety. It doesn't have to be those character perse, but character from new franchises like when they brought in Marth and Roy, and Captain Olimar, and Pit, etc.
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#4Dustof_DryBonesPosted 3/30/2013 2:38:16 PM
harvestmoonmike posted...
They're niche to the extreme, not to mention they originated from outside studios and aren't worth a dang to Nintendo.


Congratulations, you just described K. Rool and Dixie Kong.
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#5harvestmoonmikePosted 3/30/2013 2:41:34 PM
Marth and Roy were part of a long running franchise that was already quite successful in Japan before they were put in Melee, not to mention Fire Emblem was a first party franchise created in-house.

And Pikmin goes without saying, it was created by Miyamoto and made by EAD, that's top priority stuff right there. It was already Nintendo's next big thing when the first game released.

Sin & Punishment is an INTENTIONALLY under the radar franchise that Nintendo doesn't care to promote, just like Golden Sun, Starfy, Kururin, Drill Dozer, Custom Robo, Chibi Robo, or any other number of 2nd party created franchises... But perhaps Xenoblade can rise from its niche status with the sequel, but as it stands currently, Nintendo isn't promoting it nearly as much as its other 1st party franchises, less so than Rhythm Heaven even.
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#6retrogamer28Posted 3/30/2013 2:44:38 PM
harvestmoonmike posted...
Saki and Shulk? You serious?

They're niche to the extreme, not to mention they originated from outside studios and aren't worth a dang to Nintendo.


Shulk is from Monolith Soft, and that studio is only as outside as Retro. As someone else said, Dixie and K. Rool are from Rare, and they were even further from Nintendo than Monolith.
#7harvestmoonmikePosted 3/30/2013 2:46:53 PM(edited)
Dustof_DryBones posted...
harvestmoonmike posted...
They're niche to the extreme, not to mention they originated from outside studios and aren't worth a dang to Nintendo.


Congratulations, you just described K. Rool and Dixie Kong.


They're in a different situation after the sale of Rare. But you'd be right had it been before the sale, and I feel it actually was a big reason why Diddy wasn't included in Smash 64 or Melee (after all, Diddy was never included in Mario spin-off games until after the sale of Rare). But more importantly than the characters, its the franchise they come from, did the franchise originate from a 2nd or 1st party? Next-Level made the new Punch-Out, but it's still a first party originated franchise, so say something original from that game, like Giga Mac, just being a part of that first party franchise helps it tag along.

However, you still make a great point about K.rool and Dixie... Now that Nintendo fully owns them, they can do whatever they want with them... Does Nintendo want to keep them around or not? They cared enough about Diddy, but they may not care enough about the others, and DKCR perhaps shows that.
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#8MrSpacelySlatePosted 3/30/2013 2:56:02 PM
Vaztor71 posted...
Character like Little Mac, Saki, Shulk, etc. are all way more likely to show up, but 90% of the time I come here, I just see the suggestions that been getting portrayed as "likely" since the days before Melee was released and never have and never will come to fruition.

I'm just saying, I don't want you guys to get your hopes up is all.


That's where the hypocrisy lies. They're nowhere more likely, in fact I'd say they're just as likely.
#9Vaztor71(Topic Creator)Posted 3/30/2013 2:59:32 PM
How are characters that represent new series and have unique move set potential just as likely as old 3rd tier characters with no real unique distinguishing qualities? I was just picking examples off the top of my head. It doesn't have to be those characters specifically. You're overlooking the point.
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#10SmallerRidleyPosted 3/30/2013 3:02:48 PM
From: Vaztor71 | #001
I'm just saying, I don't want you guys to get your hopes up is all.

Aww, thanks! It's too bad the rest of the board can't stop talking endlessly about rosters that will be wrong in the end.
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