Most Likely Newcomers list

#1victinivcreate1Posted 4/29/2013 7:53:04 AM
Well you guys wanted this so i took it upon myself to make it. Ill edit it and take requests for REASONABLE suggestions.


Mario
Toad 60%
Toad is the the last of the five main characters of Mario not in SSB4 as playable. However, many dislike him in favor of a more likely candidate, Bowser Jr.

Bowser Jr.-65%
Bowser Jr. is the more likely rep out of the two serious Mario reps (Waluigi, Daisy, you are liked generally by trolls and there aren't too many who actually have legit reasons for their support for the two). He has been in several games and has established a good following. However, many dislike him because of his high potential to be a semi bowser clone.


DK
King K. Rool- 85%
The most likely DK rep, and one of the most popularly requested characters for SSB4. Despite lacking relevance, he could be added as a DK RETRO rep. And the fact that his popularity remained strong even when he hasn't been in a mainstream game for over 10 years says something.

Dixie Kong-60%
The second most likely DK rep, but mostly out shadowed by King K. Rool. Back in Brawl, she was paired up with Diddy, as a "Ice Climber esque" duo. However due to limitations, this couldn't be done. However, with the Wii U's significant hardware increase, it is possible for her to get in as a partner for Diddy. As a standalone character, shes not too likely.

Metroid
Ridley-85%
The most popular choice in the west. Size is not an issue as there are so many good argumenst that completely blow apart that crap argument. Bowser is averaging 17-20 feet in his games. Ridley is about the same size or slightly larger. They can be resized. Olimar is dime sized in his games. He looks 4 feet tall in Brawl. Resizing. Wolf and Falco are 6'2" in Star Fox. However, they look 5'7" (Falco, u don;t believe me compare Falco to Captian Falcon who is said to be 6'1") and 4'11" (Wolf). Resized. Pikachu and Squirtle can fit on Snake's shoulder (canon wise), yet in Brawl, both are about the size of Snake's leg. Charizard is 5'7" in-game yet he looks 5'4" in Brawl. Lucario is 3'11" in-game yet he looks 5'7" in Brawl. Sonic is 3'3" in-game yet he looks 5'3" in Brawl. Anyway, Ridley is relevant, MASSIVELY popular, and Metroid is in dire need of a second rep not named Samus.

Pokemon
Genesect-70%
The most popular 5th gen rep for SSB4. Genesect boasts a movie that will be relased in July 2013 (in Japan, no word on US release). He is the current posterchild in pokemon. Genesect could have a very unique moveset based on his ability, Download. Moreso, he is from a gen that has had more significance than all the other gens bar the 1st and the 6th. However, he faces fierce competition from Mewtwo/Newtwo.

Mewtwo/Newtwo-90%
The duo are near guarantees and for good reason. Mewtwo is overall the most requested newcomer for ssb4, in Europe, Japan, and the US. He has immense popularity, and was in SSBM. In 5th Gen he got Psystrike (signature move), and Hurricane (1st movie storm). He will star in Extremespeed Genesect alongside the steel bug.
Newtwo is a new form of Mewtwo. Many are considering him the 6th Gen representative. Many who disliked Mewtwo like the new form. Despite being released less than a month ago, he has already gain a good following. He will be in Pokemon X&Y and also stars in Extremespeed Genesect. Many like Newtwo because he hits 2 birds with one stone. We get a 6th gen and Mewtwo in one character.

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Genesect, Mewtwo, Ridley, Shulk, Palutena, Megaman, Isaac, Saki, Toad, King K. Rool, Ghirahim, Roy, Little Mac, Megaman, and DLC for SSB4
#2victinivcreate1(Topic Creator)Posted 4/29/2013 7:54:29 AM
Zoroark-40%
Zoroark, the 5th gen mascot. Many disliked her because she was viewed as a Lucario replacement. She was also weakened by Victini, who had arguably more significance, starred in 2 movies, and has the V (5, representing 5th Gen) on its forehead. It was then killed off completely by Genesect and Mewtwo/Newtwo. However, it does still have a chance, just significantly lower than the other pokemon reps.

Victini-45%
Many liked Victini because many were sure that Lucario gets replaced by Zororark. Since Victini had a body type similar to Squirtle, Lucario could stay. However, Victini took a plummeting in popularity after the release of Genesect and was defeated for good when Newtwo rolled around.


Kid Icarus
Palutena-90%
The co star of Kid Icarus. She and Pit were revived in 2008 with Palutena a part of Pit's Final Smash. Sakurai created both their new looks. Since then, Sakurai created Kid Icarus Uprising a very good game (if you have a 3Ds, GET THIS). Palutena was a boss in the game, had a HUGE amount of significance in the game, and there is even an anime with her using Wolf Claws to cut up vegetables. Palutena is wildly popular in the US, and even moreso in Japan. If there is a shoe in character, either Palutena is, or is very close.

Medusa-55%
The main villian of the series. She was revived in Uprising, but was basically only in 40% of the game (the main villain for the first 10 chapters, then nothing more). She was very popular in 2011 until Sakurai trolled us and told her she wasn't even the main villain, that Hades was. However, it Kid Icarus gets a 3rd rep, it will surely be Medusa.

Fire Emblem
Roy-80%
The hero of FE6. Roy was in SSBM, which helps his case. Another thing to note was that Ike's Eruption was originally Roy's but then Roy was axed, and Eruption was given to Ike (he originally had some wind move that made him broken). Roy's strongpoints include the fact that he is the second most overall requested character (gamefaqs isn't the only SSB site), and he received a character redesign in Fire Emblem Awakening, which was very well received. He also has great potential to be unique (drop the clone thing from SSBM, Roy gets projectiles, and healing moves in his game). However, he faces fierce competition from Chrom, who is the hero of FE:A.

Chrom-90%
Ah, the hero of Ylisse. Chrom is the most likely FE character to get a slot for SSB4. His game was critically acclaimed (get it if you don't have this). His popularity has skyrocketed and is now in the top ten of requests. He also has good potential to be unique, as in FE13, he wields lances, the Shield of Seals, and can throw Javelins. However, he does face stiff competition from Roy. He also isn't liked as much with FE fans, especially when compared to Lucina, who beats him regularly in polls.

Lucina-65%
Lucina is a major character in Fe13's plot. She is Chrom's daughter and despite being similar to Marth, can be made unique. She is far more liked among FE fans when compared to Chrom. However, if FE gets 4 reps, the slot will go to the two above, but Lucina should not be underestimated.

Modern Unrepresented Series
Little Mac-95%
Little Mac is literally a shoe in. He is the most popular pick for a new series rep. He has relevance, with a VC release of Punch Out on Wii U and Punch Out for Wii, released in 2009 (i think). He has everything going for him, being an assist in Brawl, having great popularity, and is relevant as well.

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Genesect, Mewtwo, Ridley, Shulk, Palutena, Megaman, Isaac, Saki, Toad, King K. Rool, Ghirahim, Roy, Little Mac, Megaman, and DLC for SSB4
#3victinivcreate1(Topic Creator)Posted 4/29/2013 7:57:11 AM
Issac/Matthew-70%
The 3rd most likely new series rep. Issac is the more popular of the two. They represent Golden Sun. Issac boasted high popularity throughout 2011 and 2012. He continues to have high popularity as well. Despite being outshadowed by Shulk, Issac/Matthew's support has generally stayed the same through the years, and still remains the same as ever. Issac only lacks relevance, but that isn't too much of a problem.

Saki-65%
Saki was a popular choice for new series back in 2011 and 2012. Despite his popularity overtaken by Shulk, Saki is not to be underestimated. Sakurai teased us back on Brawl's Dojo, saying he fits in with the Brawl cast. He also is relevant with Star Successor. He somewhat lacks popularity, but that isn't a major problem.

Shulk/X's new protagonist-80%
Then second most likely new series rep. Shulk is the protagonist of the critically acclaimed Xenoblade Chronicles. Since the game's release, requests for him have grown immensly. Now he is among the top 15 in requests. Monolith has released a trailer for "X" likely a Xenoblade Chronicles sequel. At the end of the trailer, a blond character is shown. That is either an aged Shulk, or his son. His main flaw is his relative unknown with the casual fans but that is not really an issue in general (how many casuals know what Mr. Game and Watch is?)

Dillon-60%
Star of 3DS Eshop game Dillon's Rolling Western and the sequel. Dillon has a decent fanbase and his game is pretty good as well. However, his main flaw is the fact that he is beaten (in terms of popularity) by Little Mac, Issac, Saki, and Shulk. His game, while popular, also are beaten by Punch Out, Xenoblade, Golden Sun, and Sin&Punishment.

Retro
Takamaru-80%
The most likely retro rep. He has good popularity, relevance (Nintendoland attraction and Samurai Warriors 3 remake) and can be unique, as he utilizes fireballs, shurikens, a katana (used differently from a standard broadsword/claymore) and Inauzuma Lightning. He is so high mainly because no other retro can really compete with him. Lip and Duck Hunt Dog receive medium low requests.

3rd Party
Megaman-70%
The most popular 3rd party requested for SSB4. At times, he has been among the top five, and has never been lower than top ten requested. Megaman has great history with Nintendo, with about 60% of Megaman games being on Nintendo consoles. He is highly popular, and has relevance, with Megaman being released on Wii U VC sometime this year. However, he faces stiff competition from Pac-Man.

Pacman-70%
The second most popular rep for a 3rd party. He reps Namco (as they are making SSB4), and is one of the most iconic video game characters in history. Moveset potential is a stupid argument, as he has some good moves from his games, and he is pretty popular. However, he faces stiff competititon from Megaman.

Bayonetta-40%
Bayonetta is a possibility because she has a Wii U exclusive title called Bayonetta 2, likely released this year or early next year. She has a cult following from the original game, and the director of the game asked Sakurai for her to be in ssb4. However, she faces stiff competition from Pac-Man and Megaman, and many thing she reeks of "does not belong in smash".
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Genesect, Mewtwo, Ridley, Shulk, Palutena, Megaman, Isaac, Saki, Toad, King K. Rool, Ghirahim, Roy, Little Mac, Megaman, and DLC for SSB4
#4UberPyro64Posted 4/29/2013 8:32:47 AM
Your percentages are WAY too high for some. 50% and above means a good chance of getting in. So you should lower your percentages.

The only characters I would have over 50% are Chrom, Palutena, Mewtwo/Newtwo, Takamaru, Little Mac, Shulk and King K. Rool.

All besides Ridley deserve below with Ridley right at 50% since he could very well just be a boss again.
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#5victinivcreate1(Topic Creator)Posted 4/29/2013 9:02:56 AM
UberPyro64 posted...
Your percentages are WAY too high for some. 50% and above means a good chance of getting in. So you should lower your percentages.

The only characters I would have over 50% are Chrom, Palutena, Mewtwo/Newtwo, Takamaru, Little Mac, Shulk and King K. Rool.

All besides Ridley deserve below with Ridley right at 50% since he could very well just be a boss again.


Actually there are certain "near shoe ins or very popular".

50% makes no sense. A "near shoe in" should have at least above 80%. I the ones with higher percents have a better chance of getting in.
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Genesect, Mewtwo, Ridley, Shulk, Palutena, Megaman, Isaac, Saki, Toad, King K. Rool, Ghirahim, Roy, Little Mac, Megaman, and DLC for SSB4
#6IngSlayerPosted 4/29/2013 9:36:56 AM
Reading this board is like entering a room full of record players playing damaged records that all repeat themselves.
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#7victinivcreate1(Topic Creator)Posted 4/29/2013 9:41:37 AM
IngSlayer posted...
Reading this board is like entering a room full of record players playing damaged records that all repeat themselves.


Cool story bro.
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Genesect, Mewtwo, Ridley, Shulk, Palutena, Megaman, Isaac, Saki, Toad, King K. Rool, Ghirahim, Roy, Little Mac, Megaman, and DLC for SSB4
#8liveman789Posted 4/29/2013 9:43:36 AM
victinivcreate1 posted...
Well you guys wanted this


Who?
#9LittlejefferyPosted 4/29/2013 9:46:58 AM
Waluigi 100%: In Super Smash Bros Brawl, Waluigi got his own music track, assist trophy, a regular trophy, stickers, and is a color variation for Luigi (all of this is significantly more than what Bowser Jr., Toad, Daisy, etc got in Brawl IF they got anything to begin with). Waluigi will represent ALL of the Mario spinoffs and will have a moveset based off of each spinoff. Waluigi is one of the most requested characters in Japan and America.



Tc, you forgot a character so I added him for you.
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#10SalsaSavantPosted 4/29/2013 9:49:36 AM
What sort of system are you using to gauge this?
Because this seems to be more of a "personally most wanted" list then anything else.
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