Jewel store job and Norm (spoiler)

#1EarlJensonPosted 10/29/2013 11:37:39 PM
So everyone knows Norm sucks and dies if you use him.
I was curious how much he sucked, though.

He drops jewels during the heist if you go smart. How much? 300-500K.
To be fair, Karim drops a similar amount if you go loud.
But then, Karim doesn't die and cost you another 10.5% in casualty expenses.
And he doesn't drop an easily missable duffel containing 1/3 of the loot, either.
And if you have Norm on the loud path, he'll fail on crowd control a couple times, eating into the time you have to loot the store.

Even if you could prevent Norm from dying, you would have to take Eddie and the loud path to prevent any jewel dropping. And if you're going to do that, it's *still* more cost effective to use Packie+Karim than Norm+Eddie.

Just for comparison, the best case...
Karim, Packie, and Rickie (Smart):
Michael gets $1,223,073, Franklin gets $293,539

And the worst case (assuming you're able to hit all the cases)?
Karim, Norm, Paige (Loud)
Norm's duffel not recovered:
Michael gets ~$193,945, Franklin gets ~$57,466


I knew it was bad, but I didn't know it was *that* bad.
#2MrAntike184Posted 10/30/2013 10:01:38 AM
EarlJenson posted...
So everyone knows Norm sucks and dies if you use him.
I was curious how much he sucked, though.

He drops jewels during the heist if you go smart. How much? 300-500K.
To be fair, Karim drops a similar amount if you go loud.
But then, Karim doesn't die and cost you another 10.5% in casualty expenses.
And he doesn't drop an easily missable duffel containing 1/3 of the loot, either.
And if you have Norm on the loud path, he'll fail on crowd control a couple times, eating into the time you have to loot the store.

Even if you could prevent Norm from dying, you would have to take Eddie and the loud path to prevent any jewel dropping. And if you're going to do that, it's *still* more cost effective to use Packie+Karim than Norm+Eddie.

Just for comparison, the best case...
Karim, Packie, and Rickie (Smart):
Michael gets $1,223,073, Franklin gets $293,539

And the worst case (assuming you're able to hit all the cases)?
Karim, Norm, Paige (Loud)
Norm's duffel not recovered:
Michael gets ~$193,945, Franklin gets ~$57,466


I knew it was bad, but I didn't know it was *that* bad.


That's hilariously bad. I remember that when I beat it, Michael got 700,000 and Franklin got 200,000
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#3DruffPosted 10/30/2013 10:12:43 AM
I don't remember the details, but I'm pretty sure I ended up with a lot more money in pocket when I chose all of the worst crew members for the jewel heist.
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#4solidsnake999Posted 10/30/2013 12:59:06 PM
Mine went horrible, did smart but dude dropped the jewels and I didn't see. Micheal made maybe 300k and micheal less than 100. Should have restarted but I don't like doing that...
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