A suggested Phoenix buff.

#21tjmr15Posted 1/15/2013 12:26:54 AM
felica posted...
She should be able to just activate dark phoenix when she reaches 5.


Nah, cuz then I wouldn't get all those free wins from people trying to run from me when I have 5 bars. It's so satisfying.
---
PSN : XxGodHandxX
* shield skillz > just like cap >*herp derp * mighty swing * herp derp* mighty swing - your in for a word of derpp *
#22Karsticles(Topic Creator)Posted 1/15/2013 12:27:13 AM
The reasons I made the sphere bigger and had it do damage + spinning knockdown are:
1) You are sacrificing a character that can get a lot of work done here. It seems like there should be some kind of benefit beyond going Dark.

2) If it did damage + spinning knockdown, it's really hot to think of using this as Phoenix and DHCing to Devil Trigger to kill someone - hahaha. The ultimate "deathwish" strategy. If I played Spencer I would start rounds with Bionic Arm sometimes because why not?

I understand it might be a bit much, but it's an interesting thought to implement some sort of self-kill.
---
My Ultimate Dormammu Guide: http://tinyurl.com/6mr4lhv
My UMvC3 Team Building Guide: http://tinyurl.com/8x865ra
#23SadCubsFanPosted 1/15/2013 12:40:29 AM
Terrible idea. Don't even think about this until at least TaCc combos are dealt with. I feel like phoenix is so scrubby already, i don't think her having some hard counters is that bad
#24StrykeBlaydePosted 1/15/2013 12:43:22 AM
200k seems kind of weak, especially if you're talking about unscaled.
---
Hell If I Know What Marvel Team I'm Maining...
Captain of TheoryFAQs
#25lol_whatPosted 1/15/2013 2:20:55 AM(edited)
- phoenix feathers go fullscreen again, like it did in the beta

- 30% more meter gain for every 100k of health lost.
#26Karsticles(Topic Creator)Posted 1/15/2013 2:41:05 AM
SadCubsFan posted...
Terrible idea. Don't even think about this until at least TaCc combos are dealt with. I feel like phoenix is so scrubby already, i don't think her having some hard counters is that bad

TAC up, X-Factor, TAC left, Phoenix dead. It's a problem that needs a solution. Ideally, TACs can't drain meter, aren't random, etc. This is another thought that seems worth pursuing, though.

And yeah, hard counters for a character that an entire team based around for the entire cast are a pretty big deal. I don't even care about Vergil and Strider. If they get me it's my fault.

StrykeBlayde posted...
200k seems kind of weak, especially if you're talking about unscaled.

Spinning knockdown, which means a guaranteed combo afterward if it hits. She can already combo from her normal explosion always, this would just be super easy. Probably too good.

lol_what posted...
- phoenix feathers go fullscreen again, like it did in the beta

- 30% more meter gain for every 100k of health lost.

*mashes c.H* Aw yeah, pure skill.
---
My Ultimate Dormammu Guide: http://tinyurl.com/6mr4lhv
My UMvC3 Team Building Guide: http://tinyurl.com/8x865ra
#27lol_whatPosted 1/15/2013 2:43:13 AM
*mashes c.H* Aw yeah, pure skill.

x-factor dark phoenix doesn't take skill anyway and the only skill normal dark phoenix needs is not getting hit by a THC and dying to chip damage, teleporting into something you shouldn't or choking and getting randomed out by something,
#28Karsticles(Topic Creator)Posted 1/15/2013 3:44:50 AM
lol_what posted...
*mashes c.H* Aw yeah, pure skill.

x-factor dark phoenix doesn't take skill anyway and the only skill normal dark phoenix needs is not getting hit by a THC and dying to chip damage, teleporting into something you shouldn't or choking and getting randomed out by something,

What takes skill is getting the 5 bars for Dark Phoenix. You earn every drop of meter she costs.
---
My Ultimate Dormammu Guide: http://tinyurl.com/6mr4lhv
My UMvC3 Team Building Guide: http://tinyurl.com/8x865ra
#29NewuserPosted 1/15/2013 3:48:34 AM
Karsticles posted...
Apex made me sad, because it showed to be true what every Phoenix player already knows: she's goddamn easy to counter now.


If that's the case then why did F Champ get 2nd place?
---
I'm going to ****ing rip your throat out if you wake me up again. And if you touch the poster, I'll slap you across the face with your own esophogus
#30Archangel2385Posted 1/15/2013 3:58:15 AM
Newuser posted...
Karsticles posted...
Apex made me sad, because it showed to be true what every Phoenix player already knows: she's goddamn easy to counter now.


If that's the case then why did F Champ get 2nd place?

"Good fighters know their weaknesses, great fighters find a way around them." - Majin Buu
---
Words mean nothing if logic doesn't back it up. - MegaSTV
Toonami: 3/17/1997 > 9/20/2008 . . . RIP