A suggested Phoenix buff.

#41king0091Posted 1/15/2013 10:34:16 AM
DarkKirby2500 posted...
RagingRicans posted...
Phoenix doesn't need any buffs. Get rid of DP all together and give her health. Top 5 Character right there.


For this reason alone she doesn't need any buffs. People constantly undermine how fantastic normal Phoenix actually is because she dies in 1 combo, but then again, there are a lot of characters with more health that still die in 1 combo, and Phoenix is still better then them.


you do damage from more than just combos, that is where lower health becomes a factor.
#42Karsticles(Topic Creator)Posted 1/15/2013 10:56:31 AM(edited)
Newuser posted...
Karsticles posted...
Apex made me sad, because it showed to be true what every Phoenix player already knows: she's goddamn easy to counter now.


If that's the case then why did F Champ get 2nd place?

A combination of most people being goddamn morons and FChamp being able to beat 90% of the players on this planet without even losing his point character.

KageNoSenshi posted...
Why not just stop playing her for DP, and use her built meter on healing field? She is extremely resistant to damage w/ that active. I'm pretty sure it more than doubles the amount of life she has.

If i had time i'd test how much damage you have to do to her to kill her w/ it active.

Healing Field is a piece of **** that is only good for surviving the life drain caused by Dark Phoenix. Every combo that ends in a ranged hyper negates it entirely.

Masta Blasta posted...
You have to keep in mind that these are still characters with personalities. Why would Phoenix want to turn into Dark Phoenix on purpose? Jean would rather die altogether than unleash DP.

I named the move "Overload" for a reason. The move her Dark Phoenix breaking through, not Jean activating the feature. The player is activating the feature, which is different from the character doing it. See: Frank West's zombies. It's not like Frank is finding zombies to throw at the player, he's finding them and dodging/throwing them.
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#43Eat ManPosted 1/15/2013 10:54:57 AM
phoenix is fine.

there are a million ways to stop her but if she still gets thru she can solo a team.

as should be the case. she doesn't need buffs or nerfs.
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#44StrykeBlaydePosted 1/15/2013 10:59:43 AM
Karsticles posted...
StrykeBlayde posted...
200k seems kind of weak, especially if you're talking about unscaled.


Spinning knockdown, which means a guaranteed combo afterward if it hits. She can already combo from her normal explosion always, this would just be super easy. Probably too good.


You mean she's going to combo from the hyper that KILLS HER? You're sacrificing an entire character to deal 200k and more from a DHC.
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#45Karsticles(Topic Creator)Posted 1/15/2013 11:56:21 AM
StrykeBlayde posted...
Karsticles posted...
StrykeBlayde posted...
200k seems kind of weak, especially if you're talking about unscaled.


Spinning knockdown, which means a guaranteed combo afterward if it hits. She can already combo from her normal explosion always, this would just be super easy. Probably too good.


You mean she's going to combo from the hyper that KILLS HER? You're sacrificing an entire character to deal 200k and more from a DHC.

Um, you get Dark Phoenix out of this...
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