Siren Build: Harmony or Cataclysm?

#11AtomicPenguin76Posted 9/26/2012 9:28:03 AM(edited)
The damage isn't really comparable between Harmony and Cataclysm.

That said, Cataclysm is incredible for making sure things die fast and in bunches. It melts faces; at level 32 I can one-shot buzzards with phaselock, since the initial strike does about 50% and the elemental effects will do the rest. It's very, very good.

Harmony, though, is just nuts if you're playing with other people. The ability to res people from any range with phaselock is wickedly powerful and lets you handle some things that you just couldn't otherwise. The healing sure doesn't hurt, either, but it helps teammates more than I've seen it help myself when playing this way; I tend to go down pretty quickly if I keep getting hit once my shield is gone. There's only certain enemy types that give Maya any trouble as it is, and the extra healing doesn't generally help a great deal with them anyway in my experience.

Both trees are good. Motion is underrated as well, though; it seems to be ignored by a lot of people and has some great abilities in it. Still, solo if you're looking for "best" tree go Cataclysm and respec to Harmony if you're grouping and want a support role.
#12VrindlvinePosted 9/26/2012 9:34:08 AM
So in other words the game is poorly designed because one skill is better then another of the same tier. Muahah i win anways. Balance your game better gearbox.
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#13jmyoda10Posted 9/26/2012 10:02:24 AM(edited)
Vrindlvine posted...
So in other words the game is poorly designed because one skill is better then another of the same tier. Muahah i win anways. Balance your game better gearbox.


Harmony has its use in PT1, but health isn't that important in TVHM. If your shields are down so...you probably are too.

EDIT: I forgot the word "down".
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#14infinitexxPosted 9/26/2012 9:37:34 AM
The health regen in Harmony isn't as useful in TVHM. The other skills in it are pretty good though, definitely can find use for Res and Wreck.
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#15nilla151Posted 9/26/2012 9:37:39 AM
jmyoda10 posted...
Vrindlvine posted...
So in other words the game is poorly designed because one skill is better then another of the same tier. Muahah i win anways. Balance your game better gearbox.


Harmony has its use in PT1, but health isn't that important in TVHM. If your shields are so...you probably are too.


This. You don't survive long enough in pt2 to make use of harmony.
#16TheKyubiPosted 9/26/2012 12:54:48 PM
What's PT2? Playthrough 2? New game+?
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#17meltor13Posted 9/26/2012 12:57:05 PM
Nobody likes the motion tree? I was planning on making Harmony + Motion Maya
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#18MikuragaPosted 9/26/2012 1:00:43 PM
meltor13 posted...
Nobody likes the motion tree? I was planning on making Harmony + Motion Maya


I have a Motion/Cataclysm build. I invested a little in Harmony so that I can heal myself with phaselock, but that's it. Helios is much better when you build up the motion tree, Not to mention increased gun damage and some useful kill skills.
#19jmyoda10Posted 9/27/2012 12:07:16 AM
TheKyubi posted...
What's PT2? Playthrough 2? New game+?


It's TVHM. Yes. This game has a less-than-generic name for it.
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