Jack was really not that bad

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3 years ago#21
His motives and actions were comparable to Hitler, but aside from that he had a like-able personality.

Also, he enslaved his own daughter and set her up for death. How is that not "that bad?" :/
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3 years ago#22
MoxRavager posted...

He would kill people by shove people in grinders for swearing ON A GOOD DAY! It's got a nice Utopia coating but is rotten and s*** beyond that.


He himself wasn't the best role model,but his vision was beautiful regardless of how you look at it. A crime free, peaceful environment. Also, I bet no ones going to be swearing for a while now. Everything he does serves a purpose, and he was a great leader.
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3 years ago#23
Sure, he wanted to make Pandora "a better place".. but who's to say he would stop at Pandora. I think Jack would have gotten so power hungry he would branch out to other planets and try and make then "a better place" just like Pandora. He would have the ultimate weapon at his fingertips with no one to stop his reign.
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3 years ago#24
I would be fine with living in Opportunity.
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3 years ago#25
baron1232 posted...
Sure, he wanted to make Pandora "a better place".. but who's to say he would stop at Pandora. I think Jack would have gotten so power hungry he would branch out to other planets and try and make then "a better place" just like Pandora. He would have the ultimate weapon at his fingertips with no one to stop his reign.


Who says that's a bad thing? A galaxy united under one code of ethics and laws. A chance to grow collectively sounds lovely. Who cares about individual freedom and objections when you're on par with a god in terms of power.

Besides he seems pretty logical in "most" of his decisions so that's always a plus
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3 years ago#26
baron1232 posted...
Sure, he wanted to make Pandora "a better place".. but who's to say he would stop at Pandora. I think Jack would have gotten so power hungry he would branch out to other planets and try and make then "a better place" just like Pandora. He would have the ultimate weapon at his fingertips with no one to stop his reign.


pffft ultimate weapon nothing

not so great if it got stomped by 4 random guys with a ton of guns =P
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3 years ago#27
Jack made me laugh too much to recognize how "evil" he was, so he's definitely a very likeable fictional villain to say the least, in my eyes. Jack did very bad things? Yes. Jack also cracked me up on a regular basis through his echo calls? YES.
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3 years ago#28
Jack is more akin to Stalin than Hitler. Stalin killed anyone who didnt agree with him ala Jack calling the Vault Hunters Bandits(and anyone else who didnt agree with him) and tried to kill them. Hitler targeted a specific area of the population, not just anyone.
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3 years ago#29
SinisterSyn posted...
Jack made me laugh too much to recognize how "evil" he was, so he's definitely a very likeable fictional villain to say the least, in my eyes. Jack did very bad things? Yes. Jack also cracked me up on a regular basis through his echo calls? YES.


This,

Naw I agree with everyone, he was bad, very bad. But he did want a peaceful Pandora and I know for sure I wouldn't want to live in Pandora the way it is now, It could have been better if Jack got his way, and 25 years after the events who knows what Pandora could have been. Just chill all, I'm not stupid or trolling just making a small point.
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3 years ago#30
Peace through Mass Murder. Not acceptable. Just like Hitler's(and later Stalin's) actions were unacceptable.
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