Randy Pitchford on The Bee nerfs

#111SweetMadnessPosted 11/14/2012 3:44:04 PM
Panopictonguy posted...
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Wish they’d fix’d Smaller Lighter Faster FIrst :(


I know right, it doesn't even take an education past 5th grade to fix the damn problem either.


Or maybe they intended for it to work that way considering she's a good tier character by level 6.


So they intended for weapons to be unusable as a Mechromancer?


All weapons become unusable? Or only ones that would be extremely OP.


Now you are going to claim the Infinity is "broken" if Mechro's were allowed past tier 1 in the OC tree? By that argument, the Infinity being a pistol is already broken in the hands of Gunzerkers.
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#112AngryOldFeralPosted 11/14/2012 3:53:33 PM
Never really liked The Bee, so I'm not sweating it. :P
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#113PanopictonguyPosted 11/14/2012 4:14:02 PM(edited)
SweetMadness posted...


Now you are going to claim the Infinity is "broken" if Mechro's were allowed past tier 1 in the OC tree? By that argument, the Infinity being a pistol is already broken in the hands of Gunzerkers.


Yes, because the gunzerkers gets a permanent 10.5x damage boost while regenerating health and being able to kill enemies with ricocheted bullets that do 5.25x normal damage.

The gun isn't broken but the combo is absurd. All you have to do is hills the right trigger and point the gun at the ground or ceiling and everything around will die

You also eliminate the risk of losing stacks because of reload. You essentially erase all risk when you can get behind cover and hold the trigger while everything in the room dies and regenerate your shield.
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#114Seiichi OmoriPosted 11/14/2012 4:14:57 PM
From: TheTrueSeto | #001
"Bee was broken. Not nerfed enough, IMO.Some of you like broken games - I get it."
https://twitter.com/DuvalMagic

DIscuss.

Bee-dependent players in shambles

I welcome this nerf, gives people a chance to actually use original or more fun(in their opinion) builds
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#115SweetMadnessPosted 11/14/2012 4:19:01 PM
Panopictonguy posted...
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Now you are going to claim the Infinity is "broken" if Mechro's were allowed past tier 1 in the OC tree? By that argument, the Infinity being a pistol is already broken in the hands of Gunzerkers.


Yes, because the gunzerkers gets a permanent 10.5x damage boost while regenerating health and being able to kill enemies with ricocheted bullets that do 5.25x normal damage.

The gun isn't broken but the combo is absurd. All you have to do is hills the right trigger and point the gun at the ground or ceiling and everything around will die

You also eliminate the risk of losing stacks because of reload. You essentially erase all risk when you can get behind cover and hold the trigger while everything in the room dies and regenerate your shield.


And yet they're nerfing the bee? :-)
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#116kiwimyweeweePosted 11/14/2012 4:22:52 PM
Gaige is meant to be powerful by the devs. She is girlfriend mode.

It's possible they didn't mean the bee to be that powerful.
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#117PanopictonguyPosted 11/14/2012 4:23:01 PM
SweetMadness posted...
Panopictonguy posted...
SweetMadness posted...


Now you are going to claim the Infinity is "broken" if Mechro's were allowed past tier 1 in the OC tree? By that argument, the Infinity being a pistol is already broken in the hands of Gunzerkers.


Yes, because the gunzerkers gets a permanent 10.5x damage boost while regenerating health and being able to kill enemies with ricocheted bullets that do 5.25x normal damage.

The gun isn't broken but the combo is absurd. All you have to do is hills the right trigger and point the gun at the ground or ceiling and everything around will die

You also eliminate the risk of losing stacks because of reload. You essentially erase all risk when you can get behind cover and hold the trigger while everything in the room dies and regenerate your shield.


And yet they're nerfing the bee? :-)


Because OC is a highly technical risk reward tree. It's crazy powerful, but you can't just twiddle your thumbs or you'll lose all those stacks. :-(

There's nothing that can really stop a bee rampage outside being in FFYL mode.
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#118SweetMadnessPosted 11/14/2012 4:29:47 PM
Panopictonguy posted...
SweetMadness posted...
Panopictonguy posted...
SweetMadness posted...


Now you are going to claim the Infinity is "broken" if Mechro's were allowed past tier 1 in the OC tree? By that argument, the Infinity being a pistol is already broken in the hands of Gunzerkers.


Yes, because the gunzerkers gets a permanent 10.5x damage boost while regenerating health and being able to kill enemies with ricocheted bullets that do 5.25x normal damage.

The gun isn't broken but the combo is absurd. All you have to do is hills the right trigger and point the gun at the ground or ceiling and everything around will die

You also eliminate the risk of losing stacks because of reload. You essentially erase all risk when you can get behind cover and hold the trigger while everything in the room dies and regenerate your shield.


And yet they're nerfing the bee? :-)


Because OC is a highly technical risk reward tree. It's crazy powerful, but you can't just twiddle your thumbs or you'll lose all those stacks. :-(

There's nothing that can really stop a bee rampage outside being in FFYL mode.


Because not hitting the X button is really difficult? (I'm so rolling right now ROFLMAO).
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#119PanopictonguyPosted 11/14/2012 4:50:44 PM(edited)
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Because not hitting the X button is really difficult? (I'm so rolling right now ROFLMAO).



Yes accidentally reloading can happen a loot while rushing to grab loot or hit switches. If you have a tediore gun you might as well kiss your stacks goodbye. Accidentally hitting a barrel and instantly gong down with nothing around you. Firing a Rocket launcher and having the ticket fly straight down because you're accuracy is multiplied by -1050%..


Edit: the most important part. You can't just drop into random peoples games with 600 stacks.
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#120SweetMadnessPosted 11/14/2012 5:01:29 PM
Panopictonguy posted...
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Because not hitting the X button is really difficult? (I'm so rolling right now ROFLMAO).



Yes accidentally reloading can happen a loot while rushing to grab loot or hit switches. If you have a tediore gun you might as well kiss your stacks goodbye. Accidentally hitting a barrel and instantly gong down with nothing around you. Firing a Rocket launcher and having the ticket fly straight down because you're accuracy is multiplied by -1050%..


Edit: the most important part. You can't just drop into random peoples games with 600 stacks.


You don't lose all your stacks when you go down they gradually fade, you're an idiot for using Tediore weapons if you're not taking Discord, and none of this is a legitimate reason why you shouldn't be allowed to use an Infinity past tier one OC.
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