how was the bee combined with shotguns nerfed?

#1K_MAC445Posted 3/9/2013 12:51:25 AM
Is it still effective, just not game breaking like before? And how exactly was it changed?
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#2N7Spectre707Posted 3/9/2013 1:01:27 AM
It used to apply the amp shot bonus to each individual pellet. It now spreads the amp damage out evenly amongst all the pellets, which makes a drastic difference.

You are better off using a rapid fire weapon.
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#3The_Hungry_OnePosted 3/9/2013 1:04:26 AM(edited)
Before the patch The Bee affected shotguns in this formula: (Gun Damage + The Bee AMP damage X #pellets).

What I'm saying is that you take a shotgun of 5000 X 7, that's 30,000 per shot, you take The Bee and add 50,000 and you have 5000+50,000X7. That's 385,000 per shot.

Now, post-patch, the formula is the other way around: It's (Gun Damage X #pellets + The Bee AMP damage). So, it's 5000 X 7 +50,000 and you have 85,000 per shot.
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#4PanopictonguyPosted 3/9/2013 4:38:41 AM
It's still very much effective.

@The_Hungry_One I dont think that's right. I haven't used the be since pre nerf but I'm sure the damage is divided between pellets evenly. That's what caused the shotgun damage bonus glitch. +% Damage is being spread evenly among pellets.

So if you have a bee with 42k on a 3kx7 shotgun.

Damage with amp would come out to 9kx7
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#5The_Hungry_OnePosted 3/9/2013 4:40:09 AM
Panopictonguy posted...
It's still very much effective.

@The_Hungry_One I dont think that's right. I haven't used the be since pre nerf but I'm sure the damage is divided between pellets evenly. That's what caused the shotgun damage bonus glitch. +% Damage is being spread evenly among pellets.

So if you have a bee with 42k on a 3kx7 shotgun.

Damage with amp would come out to 9kx7


Hm... you may be right. I'll test it out later on and see for myself.
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#6SuprSaiyanRockrPosted 3/9/2013 4:49:32 AM
I have to wonder if it would make the skullmasher less effective as a result.

Less effective than other snipers, that is.
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#7The_Hungry_OnePosted 3/9/2013 4:51:43 AM
SuprSaiyanRockr posted...
I have to wonder if it would make the skullmasher less effective as a result.

Less effective than other snipers, that is.


Probably. I used The Bee with my Maggie before the patch, and it was awesome. It's not so effective now.
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#8ToboeAkaPosted 3/9/2013 4:57:37 AM
Yes the multi-pellet problem is still effecting 360/PS3, PC had a patch to fix it already. But yes the Skullmasher wouldn't be as effective on console because the damage bonuses are being split up between the shots. That's why things like the Sandhawk, DP Harold, and Ricochet Fibber still get big boosts from the bee. Since they don't have the multi-shots on their card.
#9xboxBUNZILLAPosted 3/9/2013 5:00:47 AM
still means you suck!
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KaBoom1322 Posted 2/26/2013 12:56:24 PM
My BAR is only 20k :( ..
#10AlleRacingPosted 3/9/2013 6:20:45 AM
Man, the PC version got a patch to fix that quite a while ago now. Get with the times peasants.
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