Gun Damage = Rocket Launcher?

#1fluffysplatPosted 5/4/2013 7:19:47 AM
Does a bonus to gun damage increase rocket launcher damage?
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#2drake_skullPosted 5/4/2013 7:29:19 AM
Rcoket Launcher =/= Gun
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#3J1miPosted 5/4/2013 9:07:42 AM
Gun damage bonuses apply to, well, guns. Also boosts Torgue gyrojets. Gyrojet guns also get bonuses from +grenade damage, so it could escalate quite a bit with a grenade/gun/torgue/whatever relic and appropriate skills. Rockets have their own +damage stat.
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#4Android21APosted 5/4/2013 10:23:16 AM
J1mi posted...
Gun damage bonuses apply to, well, guns. Also boosts Torgue gyrojets. Gyrojet guns also get bonuses from +grenade damage, so it could escalate quite a bit with a grenade/gun/torgue/whatever relic and appropriate skills. Rockets have their own +damage stat.


All TORGUE guns or just things like the Kerblaster?
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#5J1miPosted 5/4/2013 11:52:19 AM
All of them, stated by the loading screen info.
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#6AlleRacingPosted 5/5/2013 12:07:24 AM
Gun damage, as far as I know, does apply to the damage caused by rocket launchers and Torgue-barreled assault rifles, grenade damage does not apply to either of these. I haven't tested it, but I remember reading something along those lines. Also, grenade damage boosts the splash damage on the gyrojets, not the actual impact of the round.
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#7Android21APosted 5/5/2013 5:12:33 PM
J1mi posted...
All of them, stated by the loading screen info.


Sorry, I meant does Grenade damage apply to all torgue weapons?
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#8WretchedOwlPosted 5/5/2013 5:46:33 PM
Android21A posted...
J1mi posted...
All of them, stated by the loading screen info.


Sorry, I meant does Grenade damage apply to all torgue weapons?


Grenade damage will be factored into any gun that has splash damage (most maliwan guns) and every rocket launcher, because they all have splash damage as well.
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#9AlleRacingPosted 5/6/2013 12:58:13 AM(edited)
Actually, that's not true. rocket launchers receive no benefit from grenade damage, their damage is affected by gun damage and rocket launcher damage. Torgue-barreled rifles benefit from gun damage, but not grenade damage. Only the bonus elemental damage receives buffs from grenade damage, such as Torgue gyrojet guns, but that splash damage is also affected by gun damage.

Here's a test I conducted with four Torgue weapons, a pistol and rifle using gyrojets, a Torpedo, and a launcher.

http://i.imgur.com/UrvwlkW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TJuc0eA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XX3Eu4f.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tD9KluQ.jpg

This entire test is with BAR disabled, the first run is with no skills applied at all, no relics or class mods or shields are equipped:


Torgue Pistol
http://i.imgur.com/LI3fQPu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eRs7xZi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SFqGbgH.jpg

Critical - 186k
Normal - 124k
Splash - 62243


Torgue Rifle
http://i.imgur.com/MytWOWJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HhkN37q.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sGtxLKJ.jpg

Critical - 106k
Normal - 78486
Splash - 37178


Torgue Torpedo
http://i.imgur.com/l8wdTx4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/H6xpeM7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/d0tKx1Y.jpg

Critical - 100k (no critical pop-up)
Normal - 100k
Splash - 100k


Torgue Launcher
http://i.imgur.com/6qiCMXw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/S9HUUQf.jpg

Direct - 1147k
Splash - 1147k


This next test is the same as before, only with the Impact skill applied for +20% gun damage:
http://i.imgur.com/UhG9N7F.jpg


Torgue Pistol
http://i.imgur.com/8BTG8rU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vM7bF13.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EQlRMda.jpg

Critical - 224k
Normal - 149k
Splash - 74692


Torgue Rifle
http://i.imgur.com/MRddPam.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/97KSuSL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/16UXnhp.jpg

Critical - 127k
Normal - 94183
Splash - 44613


Torgue Torpedo
http://i.imgur.com/SBvEeER.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AGQZCSu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KFHC1Om.jpg

Critical - 120k
Normal - 120k
Splash - 120k


Torgue Launcher
http://i.imgur.com/zEstaES.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5xLVQJi.jpg

Direct - 1376k
Splash - 1376k


Pretty well a 20% increase across the board. Now here is a run with Steady for +25% grenade damage and +20% rocket launcher damage:
http://i.imgur.com/wFQF4UO.jpg


Torgue Pistol
http://i.imgur.com/N35DeMF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LjFA183.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4Jweybv.jpg

Critical - 202k
Normal - 140k
Splash - 77804


Torgue Rifle
http://i.imgur.com/rIsmuE5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8zUFQl3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/h91kM2e.jpg

Critical - 115k
Normal - 87781
Splash - 46472


Torgue Torpedo
http://i.imgur.com/n9Kq2yZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UFGPRjm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mbKVET5.jpg

Critical - 100k
Normal - 100k
Splash - 100k


Torgue Launcher
http://i.imgur.com/nUePx23.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7RLp5kJ.jpg

Direct - 1376k
Splash - 1376k


As we can see, the grenade damage is only boosting the splash damage of the gyrojet rounds. Furthermore, we can see it has no effect on the Torpedo whatsoever. Finally, the Launcher is doing the same +20% damage it did from the test with Impact, as it is receiving only the boost from the rocket launcher damage part of Steady, rather than anything from the +25% grenade damage bonus.
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#10J1miPosted 5/7/2013 1:20:36 AM
Thanks for taking the time to test this.
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