Tweet from GBX designer of Krieg regarding broken BAR

#1KellyRipyaPosted 5/15/2013 1:36:24 AM
Lots of people are scratching their heads over Kriegs BAR math not adding up so let's read what GBX designer Paul Hellquist had to say to a Twitter user who confronted him on this:

https://twitter.com/TheElfquist/status/334534946238640129

Twitterer:

@ TheElfquist, great work on Krieg, sir. Just one question though - is the math on roid + BAR + weapon melee bonuses correct? Heard maybe no?


GBX designer Paul Hellquist:

@The_Viddik, I'm confident it is correct but percentage multipliers don't simply add together the way you might expect.


There it is, peoples. Gearbox's response apparently is to go back to school because you cannot math >.<
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#2metroidman92Posted 5/15/2013 1:43:50 AM
Or just that his bonuses don't work like everyone assumed. Did they ever give out concrete stats, which ended up false? If not, the fault is with the audience, assuming he worked one way, when he ended up working another way.
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#3Azrael0206Posted 5/15/2013 1:43:58 AM
Love the sig Kelly
A reference to Bladerunner?
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#4RokoshuPosted 5/15/2013 1:56:32 AM
so whats a BAR
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#5Azrael0206Posted 5/15/2013 2:55:18 AM
Rokoshu posted...
so whats a BAR


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#6SuprSaiyanRockrPosted 5/15/2013 3:59:38 AM
I wouldn't call that final. The 'twitter' didn't really go into too much detail, and the GB guy seemed uncertain.
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#7Xigbar13Posted 5/15/2013 6:09:57 AM
GUYS 200% IS MORE THAN 500% RIGHT? I R GOOD AT MATH.
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#8minsterXYZPosted 5/15/2013 6:14:51 AM
He is right BTW, I don't want to sit here and prove it, but he is. Percentages don't add up, the mulitply by a decimal, thats why you can't say 500% damage plus 200% = 700%. Because there is no plus.
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#9Tec187Posted 5/15/2013 6:44:55 AM
minsterXYZ posted...
He is right BTW, I don't want to sit here and prove it, but he is. Percentages don't add up, the mulitply by a decimal, thats why you can't say 500% damage plus 200% = 700%. Because there is no plus.


That's not what is being said....

What's being said is that if you stab someone with a rapier you do more damage than if you hit someone with BAR active, EVEN if you have release the beast active!
Rapier = 200% melee damage
BAR = 500% melee damage

So tell me again how he is right?
And this time, do prove it please....
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#10WretchedOwlPosted 5/15/2013 6:50:31 AM
Yeah, you're not gonna get the bonus from having the rapier out while you BXR, which is where I think some confusion was coming from. But that aside, doing more damage with the rapier alone than with BXR is definitely not okay.

I believe someone said it was because of roid damage not being added or calculated correctly in BXR.
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