SMT fans hate Persona fans

#141DynamicJumpIuffPosted 1/1/2013 1:55:01 PM
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#142DynamicJumpIuffPosted 1/1/2013 1:59:15 PM
From: Cantido | #139
I'm quite stuck on Wendigo in DS:O at the moment. On Easy. :(


I thought you didn't like Grimdark messes about killing God. :u
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#143Inertion5Posted 1/1/2013 2:04:36 PM
FScell posted...
Aside from the main character, the first Devil Survivor was way better.

And lemons are delicious.


What's wrong with main char in Devil Survivor?
He looks pretty cool and well... that's really what matters since he's silent lol.

But yeah, interested why, never came across anyone who disliked him.
#144RikkettikPosted 1/1/2013 2:16:04 PM
Kuxal posted...
FScell posted...
Aside from the main character, the first Devil Survivor was way better.

And lemons are delicious.


What's wrong with main char in Devil Survivor?
He looks pretty cool and well... that's really what matters since he's silent lol.

But yeah, interested why, never came across anyone who disliked him.


I can't speak for FScell, but it's not that the MC from Devil Survivor was bad, it's that the MC from Devil Survivor 2 was completely awesome.
#145Inertion5Posted 1/1/2013 2:28:16 PM
Rikkettik posted...
Kuxal posted...
FScell posted...
Aside from the main character, the first Devil Survivor was way better.

And lemons are delicious.


What's wrong with main char in Devil Survivor?
He looks pretty cool and well... that's really what matters since he's silent lol.

But yeah, interested why, never came across anyone who disliked him.


I can't speak for FScell, but it's not that the MC from Devil Survivor was bad, it's that the MC from Devil Survivor 2 was completely awesome.


I saw a lot of praise for DS2 MC but I just don't see it. I mean I don't dislike him or anything, but I don't think he's any better than DS1 MC. And his rabbit hood is weird.
I only finished day 1 tho, so maybe I'll prove myself wrong.
#146FScellPosted 1/1/2013 7:13:30 PM
Kuxal posted...
Rikkettik posted...
Kuxal posted...
FScell posted...
Aside from the main character, the first Devil Survivor was way better.

And lemons are delicious.


What's wrong with main char in Devil Survivor?
He looks pretty cool and well... that's really what matters since he's silent lol.

But yeah, interested why, never came across anyone who disliked him.


I can't speak for FScell, but it's not that the MC from Devil Survivor was bad, it's that the MC from Devil Survivor 2 was completely awesome.


I saw a lot of praise for DS2 MC but I just don't see it. I mean I don't dislike him or anything, but I don't think he's any better than DS1 MC. And his rabbit hood is weird.
I only finished day 1 tho, so maybe I'll prove myself wrong.


In most games with a silent protagonist you have a sort of consistency between certain choices, to establish a minor baseline personality to the character. Stoic guy, aggressive guy, apathetic guy, so on and so forth.

If you keep playing you might begin to notice that he... deviates... from this model somewhat at time goes on.
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#147DeathChaos25Posted 1/1/2013 7:54:39 PM
FScell posted...
Kuxal posted...
Rikkettik posted...
Kuxal posted...
FScell posted...
Aside from the main character, the first Devil Survivor was way better.

And lemons are delicious.


What's wrong with main char in Devil Survivor?
He looks pretty cool and well... that's really what matters since he's silent lol.

But yeah, interested why, never came across anyone who disliked him.


I can't speak for FScell, but it's not that the MC from Devil Survivor was bad, it's that the MC from Devil Survivor 2 was completely awesome.


I saw a lot of praise for DS2 MC but I just don't see it. I mean I don't dislike him or anything, but I don't think he's any better than DS1 MC. And his rabbit hood is weird.
I only finished day 1 tho, so maybe I'll prove myself wrong.


In most games with a silent protagonist you have a sort of consistency between certain choices, to establish a minor baseline personality to the character. Stoic guy, aggressive guy, apathetic guy, so on and so forth.

If you keep playing you might begin to notice that he... deviates... from this model somewhat at time goes on.


^ This pretty much. There's a reason why people (myself included) love the DeSu 2 MC.
From my point of view, I love the DeSu2 MC because he can be more of a troll, if that makes any sense...

As a side note, Persona is the whole reason I even started playing Shin Megami Tensei games at all, my first one being Devil Survivor, which was of course followed by Devil Survivor 2.
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#148Birth_By_SorrowPosted 1/1/2013 9:36:48 PM
Idk. But this topic seems to have gotten off... well topic. So I'll give my 2 cents being someone who's never played an SMT game (Persona is not an SMT game officially in Japan. It is a MEGATEN game):

Anyone who belittles someone else for liking anything over another is ridiculous unless:

-They belittled the other game first.

-The person is ignorant themselves. Such as saying things that aren't true (meaning, cannot be backed up with facts) or simply implying only Persona, etc. is worthy of anyone's attention.

-Put down a game because it was released before there's. Like someone said on the first page, this would be equivalent to "SMT IV? Where's persona 5?" Wishing that someone should miss out on a game they enjoy is malicious in nature (even if unintentional).
#149Doru_DinnPosted 1/1/2013 9:53:19 PM
Birth_By_Sorrow posted...
Idk. But this topic seems to have gotten off... well topic. So I'll give my 2 cents being someone who's never played an SMT game (Persona is not an SMT game officially in Japan. It is a MEGATEN game):

Anyone who belittles someone else for liking anything over another is ridiculous unless:

-They belittled the other game first.

-The person is ignorant themselves. Such as saying things that aren't true (meaning, cannot be backed up with facts) or simply implying only Persona, etc. is worthy of anyone's attention.

-Put down a game because it was released before there's. Like someone said on the first page, this would be equivalent to "SMT IV? Where's persona 5?" Wishing that someone should miss out on a game they enjoy is malicious in nature (even if unintentional).


I wouldn't go so far as to say its malicious. Disrespectful might be a word I'd use.

But my whole opinion on the issue is as follows (ignore past here if you don't care):

There is a term that has become more or less prejudice, "weeaboo". Like most prejudices, it's a twist and/or exaggeration on truths about a group of people. The SMT franchise has been significantly away from weeaboo until persona, and still was somewhat distant until persona 3. Being with hipster tendancies and the ever climbing amount of people who played the series, most of the people who preferred the main SMT series as opposed to Persona were offended that it was doing better due to these "weeaboos".

As someone who's favorite game was Nocturne, but played persona 3 as my first megaten game (DEMIKIDS DOESN'T COUNT I SWEAR! :p) and has seen countless friends take sides for doing the same thing, I strongly believe this was the case. Honestly, I'd be surprised if many of the people who complain about persona fans even started playing megaten games before persona 3 came out. I'm fairly sure there is a large portion of people who lie about playing smt 1 and 2. They're good games that'd be cool to actually re-make, but they've aged terribly. XD
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#150The_JestPosted 1/1/2013 10:01:45 PM
Birth_By_Sorrow posted...
Idk. But this topic seems to have gotten off... well topic. So I'll give my 2 cents being someone who's never played an SMT game (Persona is not an SMT game officially in Japan. It is a MEGATEN game):

Anyone who belittles someone else for liking anything over another is ridiculous unless:

-They belittled the other game first.

-The person is ignorant themselves. Such as saying things that aren't true (meaning, cannot be backed up with facts) or simply implying only Persona, etc. is worthy of anyone's attention.

-Put down a game because it was released before there's. Like someone said on the first page, this would be equivalent to "SMT IV? Where's persona 5?" Wishing that someone should miss out on a game they enjoy is malicious in nature (even if unintentional).


You pretty much took the words right out of my mouth, Mr. Sorrow. I second this.

I'm on the fence, the neutral zone of this little conflict. I've played the Persona games, but I'm aware of the SMT series' quality, though from research rather then experience. Given the chance, I'd probably put Nocturne or DDS into my PS2 and give it a try.
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