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MedicalGamer
Posted 2/22/2013 7:25:24 PM
Okay we all know he's a SPOILER a shadow (sorry don't know how tip set the black boxes) but the real question is...who is hea shadow of?

Well it its my belief that Teddie its actually Lucifer's Shadow. Blonde hair and blue eyes are common traits for his human disguise. Not to mention Teddie's Arcana is the Star which is part if Lucifer's name, the Morning Star. Seems way too much of a coincidence that the ultimate Start Persona is Helel but I'll ignore that since Mamoru also did the same thing.

Now your probably wondering "why Lucifer? What kind of a secret our self he wanted to reject?"

It is my belief that Lucifer wants to befriend humanity but can't Dunne (1) he's the demon lord of the underworld so he can't give the image of weakness to his enemies or his allies. (2) He has too much pride in himself to do befriend what his fellow beings would consider to be "lesser beings". Teddie is super friendly, constantly jokes around, and wants to be friends with almost everybody.

Course its just a theory if mine
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SmashStrike
Posted 2/22/2013 7:40:09 PM
MedicalGamer posted...
Okay we all know he's a SPOILER a shadow (sorry don't know how tip set the black boxes) but the real question is...who is hea shadow of?


No one. Teddie is not a Shadow self, he is a regular Shadow. Normal Shadows are born out of the collective unconscious of humanity and don't represent any one person but rather general thoughts and feelings.
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MedicalGamer
(Topic Creator)
Posted 2/22/2013 7:46:46 PM
SmashStrike posted...
MedicalGamer posted...
Okay we all know he's a SPOILER a shadow (sorry don't know how tip set the black boxes) but the real question is...who is hea shadow of?


No one. Teddie is not a Shadow self, he is a regular Shadow. Normal Shadows are born out of the collective unconscious of humanity and don't represent any one person but rather general thoughts and feelings.


Er that's what I meant. He's basically like what the Shadows of the IT are.
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demunpuncher
Posted 2/22/2013 7:48:04 PM
MedicalGamer posted...
...It is my belief that Lucifer wants to befriend humanity...


Lucifer hates humanity though, it's part of the reason why he fell from God's graces and eventually rebelled.
metamara
Posted 2/22/2013 7:48:32 PM
If blond hair blue eyes = lucifer
Any human born with blond hair blues eyes = lucifer
Therefore your theory claims there are many lucifers running around on earth.
The_Jest
Posted 2/22/2013 7:48:33 PM
SmashStrike posted...
MedicalGamer posted...
Okay we all know he's a SPOILER a shadow (sorry don't know how tip set the black boxes) but the real question is...who is hea shadow of?


No one. Teddie is not a Shadow self, he is a regular Shadow. Normal Shadows are born out of the collective unconscious of humanity and don't represent any one person but rather general thoughts and feelings.


I don't even think he's a normal shadow. But you're right for the most part. Born of general suppressed is definitely what I believe as well. He's a shadow who has developed an ego, possibly by a bunch of shadows coming together to form him, like pieces of clay coming together to form a shape.

Still, regardless, that is a very interesting theory you have there Medical Gamer. Personally, I like it. If I didn't know any better, I'd think it was actually true. But alas, we don't know yet if Luci even exists as anything outside of a Persona yet. Plus Smash has a point.
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SmashStrike
Posted 2/22/2013 7:51:37 PM
MedicalGamer posted...
SmashStrike posted...
MedicalGamer posted...
Okay we all know he's a SPOILER a shadow (sorry don't know how tip set the black boxes) but the real question is...who is hea shadow of?


No one. Teddie is not a Shadow self, he is a regular Shadow. Normal Shadows are born out of the collective unconscious of humanity and don't represent any one person but rather general thoughts and feelings.


Er that's what I meant. He's basically like what the Shadows of the IT are.


I'm sorry but I feel we're misunderstanding each other. You responded that you meant to say what I said but you talked about Teddie being "somone's" (in this case Lucifer's) Shadow. I'm saying Teddie is not anyone's Shadow. When a Shadow is born from a specific person, that's a Shadow self. Teddie is not a Shadow self, he wasn't born out of any specific person, unlike the IT's Shadows. He's just like the random Shadows you fighting in a dungeon before getting to said dungeon's Shadow self.
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MedicalGamer
(Topic Creator)
Posted 2/22/2013 7:55:54 PM
metamara posted...
If blond hair blue eyes = lucifer
Any human born with blond hair blues eyes = lucifer
Therefore your theory claims there are many lucifers running around on earth.


To be fair...you do have a point. Those traits I listed are common for Lucifer disguise.
It just seems a little strange that Atlus made Teddie like this.
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MedicalGamer
(Topic Creator)
Posted 2/22/2013 7:58:03 PM
SmashStrike posted...
MedicalGamer posted...
SmashStrike posted...
MedicalGamer posted...
Okay we all know he's a SPOILER a shadow (sorry don't know how tip set the black boxes) but the real question is...who is hea shadow of?


No one. Teddie is not a Shadow self, he is a regular Shadow. Normal Shadows are born out of the collective unconscious of humanity and don't represent any one person but rather general thoughts and feelings.


Er that's what I meant. He's basically like what the Shadows of the IT are.


I'm sorry but I feel we're misunderstanding each other. You responded that you meant to say what I said but you talked about Teddie being "somone's" (in this case Lucifer's) Shadow. I'm saying Teddie is not anyone's Shadow. When a Shadow is born from a specific person, that's a Shadow self. Teddie is not a Shadow self, he wasn't born out of any specific person, unlike the IT's Shadows. He's just like the random Shadows you fighting in a dungeon before getting to said dungeon's Shadow self.

Oh my apologies then. I didn't realize about the distinction for Shadows.
Still it does bother me with Teddie's appearance
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TowerBooks3192
Posted 2/22/2013 9:01:37 PM
Interesting theory. But like teddie said he was just a shadow who suddenly had feelings then took on form that would make humans like him and sort of suppress his memory of being a shadow.

Or you could go with Nanako's theory that he was a king that is cursed to wander around the shadow world alone.

But teddie was king *if you know what I mean*

Also I would have to disagree about assuming he is Lucifer because he got blonde hair and blue eyes. All I know is that he was the most beautiful angel of God but he rebelled.
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