Rate the Skill, Chapter 21: Rally Speed and Lancefaire

#1guedesbrawlPosted 3/5/2013 5:47:37 PM
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R.I.P Rare.

-Skill Ranking-

S Rank:
*Aether (Great Lord,Lv5)
*Veteran (Tactician,Lv1)
*Armsthrift (Mercenary,Lv1)

A Rank:
*Rightful King (Great Lord,Lv15)
*Ignis (Grandmaster,Lv5)
*Rally Spectrum (Grandmaster,Lv15)
*Sol (Hero,Lv5)
*Astra (Swordmaster,Lv5)
*Aegis (Paladin,Lv15)
*Luna (Great Knight,Lv5)
*Dual Guard+ (Great Knight,Lv15)
*Pavise (General,Lv15)

B Rank:
*Dual Strike+ (Lord,Lv1)
*Axebreaker (Hero,Lv15)
*Vantage (Myrmidon,Lv10)
*Swordfaire (Swordmaster,Lv15)
*Locktouch (Thief,Lv1)
*Movement +1 (Thief,Lv10)
*Lethality (Assassin,Lv5)
*Lucky Seven (Trickster,Lv5)
*Special Dance (Dancer,Lv15)

C Rank:
*Solidarity (Tactician,Lv10)
*Patience (Mercenary,Lv10)
*Avoid +10 (Myrmidon,Lv1)
*Pass (Assassin,Lv15)
*Acrobat (Trickster,Lv15)
*Discipline (Cavalier,Lv1)
*Defender (Paladin,Lv5)
*Defense +2 (Knight,Lv1)
*Rally Defense (General,Lv5)
*Speed + 2 (Pegasus Knight,Lv1)
*Relief (Pegasus Knight,Lv10)

D Rank:
*Charm (Lord,Lv10)
*Luck +4 (Dancer,Lv1)
*Outdoor Fighter (Cavalier,Lv10)
*Indoor Fighter (Knight,Lv10)

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Characters that can learn either skill: Sumia, Cordelia, Cynthia, Lissa, Mariabelle, Olivia, Say'ri, Emmeryn, Aversa, Severa, Female Avatar, Female Morgan.

Characters that do not have access to the class but can pass it to female children: Gaius, Donnel, Male Avatar (Fighter-->Pegasus Knight)

Characters that can inherit the skills and the class required: Lucina (Sumia, Mariabelle, Olivia, Avatar), Kjelle (Donnel, Gaius, Avatar), Noire (Donnel, Gaius, Avatar), Nah (Donnel, Gaius, Avatar)

Characters that can inherit the skills but not the class required: Owain, Inigo, Brady, Male Morgan.

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#2guedesbrawl(Topic Creator)Posted 3/5/2013 6:06:16 PM(edited)
Who came up with the falconless Falcon Knights? Eh, if they were Pegacorn Knights or something...now, about the skills:


Rally Speed is yet another rally, that's obviously activated by using the Rally command. In its case, there's a Speed +4 bonus for every ally within a 3 tile radius for a single turn.

This is really cool and can double the damage output of whoever is affected...or halve the damage they would take (it needs either Rally Spectrum or "Rally Love" to do both...).

This is obviously very good, and while it's no Rally Spectrum...I think the bonus is important enough to warrant an A rank, since even if a unit forfeits the right to attack someone to rally, it can be more credit to team than the unit working by itself.


Lancefaire adds gives Attack +5 bonus whenever the unit is equipped with Lances. +5 Strength when the lance is normal, +5 Magic when it's magical.

It's good. Lancemen are either fast and weak (Pegasus), slow but strong (Knight), or Balanced (Cavalier); so all classes take some good benefit from it. I give it a B.
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#3guedesbrawl(Topic Creator)Posted 3/5/2013 6:31:29 PM
and bump.
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#4typhone004Posted 3/5/2013 6:35:30 PM
Aether>sol? When did this happen?
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#5RedMageKirbyPosted 3/5/2013 6:37:47 PM
Rally Speed: B. For the postgame, rallies are nice, but during the main game they're rather subpar.

Lancefaire: A. I feel like all the non-bow -faires should get an A, but Swordfaire got a B so people'll probs give this one a B too.
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#6nintendogeek01Posted 3/5/2013 6:38:09 PM
Haven't acquired either skill yet, but I just had to note...

as far as I'm concerned, Rare died a long time ago, and I mourned them then.
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#7guedesbrawl(Topic Creator)Posted 3/5/2013 6:39:36 PM
typhone004 posted...
Aether>sol? When did this happen?


back at chapter 3, almost 3 weeks ago, when aether got an S.
or back at chapter 8 where sol didn't get an S, more or less 2 weeks ago.
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#8typhone004Posted 3/5/2013 6:54:36 PM(edited)
Rally Speed: B. The +4 increase is very nice considering it only takes 5 more speed to double someone. Rally takes up a command for a unit, but also can be used on multiple units of your choice.

Lancefaire: C. I feel like the purpose of the lance classes isn't to deal damage. As a general, you should choose more defensive skills. As far moving flyers, you should make sure you aren't getting hit too much and use skills that take advantage of your movement, like galeforce.

And because I don't know what you people were thinking, Sol-S and Aether-B.
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#9McFastlyPosted 3/5/2013 7:00:50 PM
Alas, will we never see a Jinjo again? Please. Give Rare back to it's rightful place making games for Nintendo systems. How the mighty have fallen....

I give Rally Speed a B. +4 Speed make it one of the more handy Rallies.

Lancefaire can have an A from me for being moar lance powah.
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#10NidtendofreakPosted 3/5/2013 7:06:35 PM
*mutters something about fools voting Relief into C tier*

B/A

Speed is good, particularly when its +4. +5 damage is nothing to sneeze at, and is a significant enough jump to potentially keep your fliers safer because they can kill in one hit instead of two.

Also, typhone: not only can you not vote for skills that are already tier'd, there is no question as to if Aether is better than Sol. The only question is by how much. Sol doesn't increase your damage, meaning there are times where it does absolutely nothing for you. That's not an S rank skill.
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