So who is the MU? *spoilers*

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Jstretch19
Posted 3/21/2013 9:02:22 AM
Ace_Strife posted...
We can give them a little bit of credit now and then, can't we?


No, because everything they made FE7 is teh suck.
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Spikaya
Posted 3/21/2013 9:04:15 AM
Jstretch19 posted...
sjk9000 posted...
What I want to know is, if in the original timeline there were no future shenanigans, how did MU end up Chrom's best friend or whatever?


The exact same way it happens in the Prologue of Awakening. Future!MU wasn't associated with the Grimleal until after the Premonition chapter (AKA chapter 23). Essentially the exact same sequence of events happens in the future timeline just at a slower rate, except for the events after ch.23.


He wouldn't have been amnesiac, though. Probably still plays out in about the same way, except without "Marth" and the Risen.
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Jstretch19
Posted 3/21/2013 9:06:45 AM
Spikaya posted...
He wouldn't have been amnesiac, though. Probably still plays out in about the same way, except without "Marth" and the Risen.


Pretty much. The main differences between the two timelines is that the wars with Plegia and Valm were much longer in the future timeline, and of course Grima is successful in the future timeline.
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Patriarch105
Posted 3/21/2013 9:10:44 AM
sjk9000 posted...
What I want to know is, if in the original timeline there were no future shenanigans, how did MU end up Chrom's best friend or whatever?


Just because it's a different timeline doesn't mean things are drastically different.

Chrom was obviously on the same road as Avatar and they bumped into each other said hi and right before they departed from each other that town was attacked and Avatar decided to help.

Or maybe Avatar made it to that town before it was attacked.
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SazukeEX
Posted 3/21/2013 10:00:08 AM
Huff n puff 20 posted...
She took him/her, bounced, ran....
Took a portal to Elibe, got killed by bandits, He/she got KO'd. He got found by Lyn, took the name Mark, helped work out Lyn's problems, then helped out Eliwood a year later. He became Roy's god father, and took a portal to get back to Archnea. It worked, but made him/her lose much of their memories (Again), and he/she became known as Kris, made good confects, and may have done things with Katarina until dissappearing again. This time, he/she got found by Future!MU, aka Grima, and Awakening happened. MU has much tactical knowledge because of being Mark and Kris.


You forgot that he's also Lilina's God Father and is the reason Hector and Farina ended up working together which paved the way for Lilina to exist as the two are her parents.
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AngelPeach
Posted 3/21/2013 10:01:16 AM
Suffer_Not posted...
In the original timeline, Robin was the son of Validar and was entirely committed to serving Grima. At his father's behest, he infiltrated the Shepards and pretended to be Chrom's friend, acting as an adviser to the young lord.


Not exactly. Nowhere does it ever say that Avatar was a true Grimleal. Especially with his/her mother taking him/her away from there, it is more likely that she warned her child to never get close to them.

The way I see it, the story starts out similarly, just with their memories intact and no Premonition, since it is pretty much hinted as to how that was seen later on. Also, I kinda doubt that Ylisstol was expecting him/her, since they had no idea who he/she was after meeting him/her in the field.

There are some small differences here and there, until the part where Chapter 6 is, where Emmeryn is killed and the Fire Emblem is stolen by the Grimleal, which forces a long fight with Gangrel, and eventually, a long fight with Walhart as well. Say'ri also dies somewhere here, and Yen'fey is the one who survives. Basilio also dies for good.

As for how Avatar learned battle tactics, who is to say they couldn't? Maybe his/her mother lied about his/her father, saying that he was a great tactician, and maybe wanted to follow in his footsteps? Or maybe he/she just had a knack for it, and wanted to learn more?

Another thing to remember as well, is if Avatar married someone. Even Owain's A support changes slightly to indicate that he only assumed his father died in that Risen attack, instead of Owain actually seeing it. I'm sure the supports for Yarne also change slightly in this regard. Technically, events could be changed even more depending on who he/she ended up with.

No one knows everything about the events that happened. But I highly doubt that Avatar was with Validar initially. Chapter 6 makes it seem like this is the first time he had seen him/her after years of searching. So, it isn't very likely that even with his/her memories that he/she was with him.
SazukeEX
Posted 3/21/2013 10:05:33 AM

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Jstretch19 posted...
Spikaya posted...
He wouldn't have been amnesiac, though. Probably still plays out in about the same way, except without "Marth" and the Risen.


Pretty much. The main differences between the two timelines is that the wars with Plegia and Valm were much longer in the future timeline, and of course Grima is successful in the future timeline.


Chrom fought Lon'qu, Fire Emblem is stolen, Emm dies very early, Chrom is severely injured, and Chrom never gets the Exalted Falcion. It's also hinted by Severa's conversation with Cordelia on a tile/barracks that Cordelia was one of those that died when Chrom died due to the betrayal and Validar not dying and being successful in converting MU/summoning the Risen.

Hell, Chrom DIES with the Falcion. When the heck did they have time to steal it back for Lucina?

Also, due to the start of the game in the Future... It seems like Chrom and co. at one point learned that MU/FeMU was the child of Validar and Validar had told them about MU/FeMU's destiny to bring about Grima. Due to this reveal it might have given MU enough doubt that after being forced to kill Chrom they give in to despair as those that didn't trust them, due to this reveal earlier on, may have turned on them on a spur of the moment thing after seeing Chrom dead by their hand.
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