unless you are going for a gen 3 morgan, these are THE best marriages.

#21MAtt5TERPosted 4/24/2013 7:44:17 AM
Guys, ___faire skills suck, especially with Limit Breaker around. They are about an 8% increase to the attacking stat. So, unless you find that most of enemies are 5-10 HP from being killed, ___faire skills are a waste of a slot.
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#22NanayaSRebornPosted 4/24/2013 7:45:21 AM
DemiseEnd posted...
Review because why not

Sumia:

Sumia!Lucina has the highest speed and skill mods from all of Chrom's pairing, and a pretty decent Res mods. On the other hand, Lucina also get the rather undesirable -2 Def(-1 over Olivia), and sadly +0 STR and +1 Mag. Were going to talk about this later.

Class wise, Sumia gives Knight, Priest, and Pegasus Knight line, giving the highly sought after Galeforce, while also giving some notable skills such as Pavise and Tomefaire. A Sumia mothered Lucina is arguably the best abuser of Rightful King, thanks to Aegis Pavise Combo, coupled with Aether.

Theres a lot of build that you can use with this. Theres Tank Lucina with Aegis, Pavise, and a Healing Skills. Lucina make a decent caster with Cellica Gale as a Dark Flier. Dark Flier can freely use any kind of Pair Up and play Cellica Gale. Tank Lucina uses Aegis and Pavise on one of her preffered class, preferably Palladin. Great Knight Lucina reach 42 speed, allowing an Assassin Pair Up to reach 75 speed with every buff, however its not good in general thanks to low SKL, low Res, and

While Olivia is usually cited as the best Offensive Lucina, at the cost of -3 SKL(1% chance of Aether, 3% chance of Luna, ,4-5 ACC), and -2 SPD, Sumia!Lucina can run a Palladin set ups with Lancefaire, having a simmilar offensive power as Great Lord Olivia!Lucina, and a superior defensive parameter while still reaching the 45 Speed benchmark for Berserker Pair Up, followed by AS+2 to allow more complex pair up such as using Palladin.

Also, Palladin Lucina with Sumia mom has better Res than Bride Olivia!Lucina and roughtly same defense and more mov, all with horse weakness that did not matter much in DLC levels(unless someone show otherwise), and lack of Rapier that sucks and you can use Braves anyway.

Lucina also does pretty well as an Archer with this set ups, with 45 Speed and Galeforce.

Overall, Sumia is considered the second best Lucina(but not Cynthia) for a good reason. She offers versatility and defense over Olivia's more offensive approach, thanks to the extra speed freeing some slots from AS+2, and her mixed class sets. Definitely a pairing that worth a consideration

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Olivia:
Olivia basically gives a Superior Clone of Chrom, having a superior stats in every area, except Def and Res. 3 SKL and 3 SPD is enough to do the job, and 2 STR basically translates into “best Physical Lucina forever and ever”

Class sets wise, Olivia gives Myrmiddon and Pegasus, giving Galeforce and Sword/Lancefaire. Also Vantage. Im going to mention Rightful King + Lethality just because, I mean you can kill easilly without Lethality.

Lets keep it short, Olivia wins Physical offense anytime of the day, its simply a matter of class choice. Great Lord has Sword Acess and durability. Assassin has Bow and extremely high Skill. Bride is basically Swordless Great Lord with Tomes and Bows(and with 42 STR with Lance and same Mag, its basically has the same parameter as Sumia!Palladin Lucina. Take that Sumia). The speed for most of the offensive class happen to be enough to ignore AS+2 for most of the sets(Palladin missed one point before reaching 75 speed with buff)

Overall, its not that interesting to discuss this pairing now, because everything has already been said before. Olivia is the best for Physical Great Lord Lucina, has amazing caps, and skill acess particularly Vantage. Think Sully, except instead of Wyvern, you get Galeforce and an extra STR no matter how little it worth. Its considered the best, and also the hardest of the pair to get, and for good reason.

tl;dr

Olivia is better.

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#23DemiseEndPosted 4/24/2013 7:47:01 AM
That review basically sums up that they are basically equal.

However, Inigo called. he want his Rightful King back.

Cynthia called. Aether sucks
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#24bearclaw13Posted 4/24/2013 7:47:06 AM
DemiseEnd posted...
Stuff.


The difference being that Sumia can do Better (Henry or Avatar) whilE Olivia can't really.
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#25BlueDryBones1Posted 4/24/2013 7:47:59 AM
I've got to disagree. In my opinion the best marriages if your not using MU in first gen is:

Chrom!Cynthia.

Sumia!Lucina

Virion/Frederick!Inigo

Ricken/Libra!Owain

Donnel!Kjelle

Henry!Brady

Frederick/Gregor/Stahl!Gerome

Stahl/Ricken!Laurent

Gregor!Yarne

Gaius!Noire

Lon'qu/Stahl!Severa

Kellam/Gaius!Nah

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Things worth noting:

Stahl gives Laurent everything Ricken gives+Vantage.

Frederick gives Gerome a very good defensive Skill pool and +6 Str/+5 Def.

Frederick!Inigo is basically another Donnel!Kjelle. Just trade Pegasus Knight and Troubador for Barbarian and keep in mind he still has access to Galeforce.
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#26DemiseEndPosted 4/24/2013 7:50:54 AM(edited)
bearclaw13 posted...
DemiseEnd posted...
Stuff.


The difference being that Sumia can do Better (Henry or Avatar) whilE Olivia can't really.


Pretty much

Inigo can try some Vaike and Frederick, but its not as cool as RFK
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#27Jstretch19Posted 4/24/2013 7:50:50 AM
MAtt5TER posted...
Guys, ___faire skills suck, especially with Limit Breaker around. They are about an 8% increase to the attacking stat. So, unless you find that most of enemies are 5-10 HP from being killed, ___faire skills are a waste of a slot.


20 damage = waste of a slot?
#28bearclaw13Posted 4/24/2013 7:52:55 AM
Some food for thought.

Lissa x Libra
Sully x Donnel
Miriel x Gregor
Sumia x Henry
Maribelle x Ricken
Panne x Stahl
Cordelia x Lon'qu
Nowi x Vaike
Tharja x Gaius
Olivia x Chrom
Cherche x Frederick
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#29MAtt5TERPosted 4/24/2013 7:53:01 AM
From: Jstretch19 | #027
MAtt5TER posted...
Guys, ___faire skills suck, especially with Limit Breaker around. They are about an 8% increase to the attacking stat. So, unless you find that most of enemies are 5-10 HP from being killed, ___faire skills are a waste of a slot.


20 damage = waste of a slot?


When you are already dealing +80 damage with Limit Breaker? Duh.
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#30DemiseEndPosted 4/24/2013 7:54:36 AM
I take AS+2 over Faire for sure....
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