unless you are going for a gen 3 morgan, these are THE best marriages.

#41SazukeEXPosted 4/24/2013 8:06:29 AM
Another thing.

Viaike!Inigo?

Really?

If you want just pure mods than Vaike!Inigo is better.

Regardless both are a complete waste of Vaike's seed as Vaike wants a daughter.
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#42bearclaw13Posted 4/24/2013 8:06:30 AM
SazukeEX posted...
Vaike!Kjelle > Donnel!Kjelle

Vaike!Kjelle has +7 Damage, +14 when Doubling, over Donnel!Kjelle as an Axe Hero while Vaike!Kjelle has better caps as a General and Gale Force is wasted as as General Kjelle should be using this skill set to be the best se can be as a General.

Armsthrift
Sol/Luna
Aegis
Pavise
Limit Breaker


I like Vaike!Nah better but this still works just fine.
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#43Tatakai-No-Kami(Topic Creator)Posted 4/24/2013 8:09:26 AM
do people really want to use like, 8 sorcs though? seems kinda pointless to me since its only worthwhile if you have armsthrift for aversas night spam.

aether is a better bonus for cynthia than anything henry can give her, unless as i said before, you have a boner for sorcs.
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#44Col_MobiusPosted 4/24/2013 8:09:44 AM
bearclaw13 posted...
So.. ruin Owain's potential (the other good fathers for him are taken) in exchange for a good Sorcerer?


Owain is plenty good enough with Ricken, Henry, Vaike, or Donnel. Henry should be with Maribelle, Vaike with Sully, and Ricken possibly with Miriel. Donnel!Owain is terrific. Or you could do Gregor!Laurent like a smart person and have Ricken!Owain, which is great.
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#45SazukeEXPosted 4/24/2013 8:10:02 AM
Vaike should only be given to Kjelle or Nah.

Kjelle benefits more from Vaike than Nah due to Armsthrift, and Axefaire pass down from Vaike, which is not needed at all for Manakete Nah due to 35 use DS+ that cannot be forged and are very cheap to get.

General Kjelle wants Helswrath and Gradivus, Legendary Weapons as well as a Brave Axe/Lance for situations that she needs that extra omph.

Hero Kjelle wants Helswrath, Vorlant Axe, Hauteclere, and a Brave Axe. All Axes due to er having Axefaire from her daddy Vaike.
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#46Tatakai-No-Kami(Topic Creator)Posted 4/24/2013 8:10:38 AM
SazukeEX posted...
Another thing.

Viaike!Inigo?

Really?

If you want just pure mods than Vaike!Inigo is better.

Regardless both are a complete waste of Vaike's seed as Vaike wants a daughter.


and which daughter are you giving to vaike who doesnt need galeforce from someone else or doesnt default with armsthrift like severa does?
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#47BlueDryBones1Posted 4/24/2013 8:11:44 AM
bearclaw13 posted...
BlueDryBones1 posted...
NanayaSReborn posted...
Tatakai-No-Kami posted...
better mods than olivia

rofl

She has effectively -7 Str compared to Olivia!Lucina due to the terrible modifier and lack of Swordfaire.


Sumia!Lucina>Olivia!Lucina

Sumia gives Lance/Tomefaire Lances are arguably better than Swords because of more access to 1-2 Range. +2Spd/+1Skl>+2Str. There is nothing else to compare between the 2. Knight+Cleric>Myrimidon. -1Def/Res from Olivia is < or = to -2Def +1 Res.

Also if your making Cynthia into a Dark Flier there is only a difference of 1 Mag between Henry!Cynthia and Chrom!Cynthia. Only skill that Henry gives that is notable is Wrath but without Vantage she still gets most of her skills from Sumia either way. Gets to be able to do more with Chrom as a father.
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Virion/Frederick!Inigo>>>>>>>>>Chrom!Inigo

Frederick!Inigo is a clone of Donnel!Kjelle just trade her female only classes for Barbarian and he still has access to Galeforce from Olivia.

Virion!Inigo is the best Galeforce Inigo.


Wait what?

Lucina already has something like this from both mothers
Limit Breaker
Aether
Galeforce
Rightful King
Aether/Luna

Yeah Lucina doesn't need Faire's. Even if she did where would she put them? I don't think any of these skills being inferior to +5 damage. As you already pointed out Henry has one more point of magic, better than nothing.

Inigo from Chrom can look something like.
Armshift
Galeforce
Rightul King
Sol
Aegis/Whatever.

Frederick and Virion lack RK and end up inferior because of that.


Where is Limit Break on Inigo? Limit Breaker>RK on units that use Skill% procs. Seems like a huge waste just to use it for Sol and Only Sol since Armsthrift is 100% either way. He doesnt need RK its just not worth it. He has other skills that he would rather run.

2 Proc skills is bad its either Aether or Luna but not both. I agree that she doesnt need faires but I'm just proving that Swordfaire from Olivia doesnt beat Lancefaire that both can give making Swordfaire not stand up in a argument on Sumia vs Olivia. RK is absolutely pointless if your using only 1 proc.

Tank Sumia!Lucina can run:

Aegis
Pavise
Aether
RK/Filler if you rather use something else
Limit Breaker

69% Aegis and Pavise w/o Pair ups or boost of any kinds. 40% Aether.

Lucina also gets +1 Mag and Tomefaire which means that she has potential as a good Dark Flier. Galeforce+Tomefaire+Luna+Limit Break+Preference would be good on an offensive Magic set.
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#48bearclaw13Posted 4/24/2013 8:11:50 AM
Col_Mobius posted...
bearclaw13 posted...
So.. ruin Owain's potential (the other good fathers for him are taken) in exchange for a good Sorcerer?


Owain is plenty good enough with Ricken, Henry, Vaike, or Donnel. Henry should be with Maribelle, Vaike with Sully, and Ricken possibly with Miriel. Donnel!Owain is terrific. Or you could do Gregor!Laurent like a smart person and have Ricken!Owain, which is great.


RIcken goes with Maribelle. Henry goes with anyone really (although I prefer Sumia). Vaike goes with anyone because Sol + Armshift(if female) is amazing. Donnel is better off giving someone Galeforce.
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#49SazukeEXPosted 4/24/2013 8:13:09 AM
Tatakai-No-Kami posted...
do people really want to use like, 8 sorcs though? seems kinda pointless to me since its only worthwhile if you have armsthrift for aversas night spam.

aether is a better bonus for cynthia than anything henry can give her, unless as i said before, you have a boner for sorcs.


You'll end up with 8 Armsthrift Sorcerers pretty easily if you wan them.

MU
Cordelia
Morgan
Morgan Sibling
Lon'qu!Severa
Donnel!Noire
Gregor!Laurent
Libra!Inigo

Another thing of note is that...

You may lose a Gale Force for marrying Sumia but you make a Super Cynthia that can also be a super Sorcerer if you want. Sumia's SPD mod is pretty darn great that you can go +MAG MU and still have Sorcerer Cynthia being a doubling machine as a Sorcerer.
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#50Tatakai-No-Kami(Topic Creator)Posted 4/24/2013 8:13:23 AM
SazukeEX posted...
Vaike should only be given to Kjelle or Nah.

Kjelle benefits more from Vaike than Nah due to Armsthrift, and Axefaire pass down from Vaike, which is not needed at all for Manakete Nah due to 35 use DS+ that cannot be forged and are very cheap to get.

General Kjelle wants Helswrath and Gradivus, Legendary Weapons as well as a Brave Axe/Lance for situations that she needs that extra omph.

Hero Kjelle wants Helswrath, Vorlant Axe, Hauteclere, and a Brave Axe. All Axes due to er having Axefaire from her daddy Vaike.


at the cost of galeforce, idk man.
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