Is there a FE with more unbalanced playable characters than Radiant Dawn?

#11Aphoph(Topic Creator)Posted 5/26/2013 12:08:19 AM
katella posted...
Aphoph posted...
Is_Corrupted posted...
Alright, FE13.

Your turn.


Name a Awakening character worse than Lyre, Fiona, Astrid, and Meg.


None because you can grind, overpower any unit and solo any map with said unit.


So how is Awakening more unbalanced, since you can say, grind Donnel long enough so that he can keep up with other units with no penalties, as well his growths. As well as other ways to salvage units.

Compare this to RD, where Fiona isn't very good when you have her, and joins so late that she's going to be behind your other units unless you dump your limited supply of BEXP on her.
#12silver123456789Posted 5/26/2013 12:11:44 AM(edited)
Aphoph posted...
Is_Corrupted posted...
Alright, FE13.

Your turn.


Name a Awakening character worse than Lyre, Fiona, Astrid, and Meg.


In an efficient playthrough on hard mode, ricken is worse than meg by a lot. Also, all the kids suck hard if playing efficiently. Much worse than meg. Kids starting stats are so terrible when they join.
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#13katellaPosted 5/26/2013 12:20:19 AM
Aphoph posted...
katella posted...
Aphoph posted...
Is_Corrupted posted...
Alright, FE13.

Your turn.


Name a Awakening character worse than Lyre, Fiona, Astrid, and Meg.


None because you can grind, overpower any unit and solo any map with said unit.


So how is Awakening more unbalanced, since you can say, grind Donnel long enough so that he can keep up with other units with no penalties, as well his growths. As well as other ways to salvage units.

Compare this to RD, where Fiona isn't very good when you have her, and joins so late that she's going to be behind your other units unless you dump your limited supply of BEXP on her.


Youre talking about something completely different. Just because a bunch of units are good with some bad doesnt mean its more broken than awakening. Awakening is broken in every possible way that breaks the gameplay in just about every angle. RD has its flaws but its nowhere near as indecent as awakening. If you truly do not believe this as a non-troll then you really need to rethink your ways.
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#14Emmy_AltavaPosted 5/26/2013 12:35:31 AM
FE12.

Marth, Kris, Catria, Palla, Caeda, and Sirius each break the game in their own right, whereas a majority of everyone else is entirely useless.
#15SazukeEXPosted 5/26/2013 12:41:45 AM
Emmy_Altava posted...
FE12.

Marth, Kris, Catria, Palla, Caeda, and Sirius each break the game in their own right, whereas a majority of everyone else is entirely useless.


This is so true...
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#16Pitbuller_26Posted 5/26/2013 12:47:57 AM
Firestar0513 posted...
Nope.
Greil Mercenaries=Almost all completely broken
Haar=Completely broken
Fail Brigade=Only 2 decent units.


People's hate for the Dawn Brigade clouds the judgment and intelligence.

The DB have Micaiah, Sothe, Volug, Nolan, Jill, and Zihark.
I'm counting 6 good units...which means your statement should be: "Only 2x3 decent units".
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#17DemiseEndPosted 5/26/2013 4:54:37 AM
silver123456789 posted...
Aphoph posted...
Is_Corrupted posted...
Alright, FE13.

Your turn.


Name a Awakening character worse than Lyre, Fiona, Astrid, and Meg.


In an efficient playthrough on hard mode, ricken is worse than meg by a lot. Also, all the kids suck hard if playing efficiently. Much worse than meg. Kids starting stats are so terrible when they join.


Nope


> Points at PKL
> Points at JSND's playlog
> Points at Pedoclaw log


Also Ricken can be used as a throwaway pair up bot at level 10 quick promotion
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#18Brady672_AT_fanPosted 5/26/2013 5:13:56 AM
And let's not forget the majesty of Holsety on a horse, Elite Larci, Shanan, and Eltstahn's kid (can't remember his name) roflstomping anyone and everyone else in the entire series
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#19Wandering__HeroPosted 5/26/2013 5:20:21 AM
Fire Emblem 4, by a mile.
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#20TsunamiXXVIIIPosted 5/26/2013 8:46:29 AM
katella posted...
Aphoph posted...
katella posted...
Aphoph posted...
Is_Corrupted posted...
Alright, FE13.

Your turn.


Name a Awakening character worse than Lyre, Fiona, Astrid, and Meg.


None because you can grind, overpower any unit and solo any map with said unit.


So how is Awakening more unbalanced, since you can say, grind Donnel long enough so that he can keep up with other units with no penalties, as well his growths. As well as other ways to salvage units.

Compare this to RD, where Fiona isn't very good when you have her, and joins so late that she's going to be behind your other units unless you dump your limited supply of BEXP on her.


Youre talking about something completely different. Just because a bunch of units are good with some bad doesnt mean its more broken than awakening. Awakening is broken in every possible way that breaks the gameplay in just about every angle. RD has its flaws but its nowhere near as indecent as awakening. If you truly do not believe this as a non-troll then you really need to rethink your ways.


He's the TC. You're the one talking about something completely different. As soon as I saw which game was identified in the topic title, I understood that he meant "unbalanced" in the sense that some characters are completely broken whereas others are completely unusable, whereas you misinterpreted him completely. FE13's characters are balanced, in that thanks to the ability to go through a class's level progression as many times as it takes to hit all of its caps, any of them can become overpowered. Broken, yes, but not unbalanced.

And, no, I don't think there is. There are some bad units in other games, but nothing quite as unusable as Fiona. Let's recap:

Chapter 1-7: First chapter in which she's usable. Indoor map where she gets a movement penalty. Blech.
Chapter 1-8: Not usable, but it's in a swamp so she'd be nearly useless anyway.
Chapter 1-9: Nobody's usable except Micaiah and the Black Knight
Chapter 1-E: Another indoor map.

Chapter 3-6: Finally, an outdoor map that she's usable on...but aside from the fact that there's a huge jump in enemy level from 1-E to 3-6, this level takes place in a river so she's hugely limited. But seriously, she can barely even hit the enemies here, let alone do significant damage.
Chapter 3-12: Another jump in difficulty. This is the first level where she actually would have potential to be useful, but she's so underleveled at this point that she can't do s***.

And so on. Radiant Dawn discriminates against Cavaliers/Paladins in general--just look at 3-5 and you'll realize this to be true--but Fiona gets absolutely railroaded.
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