If it weren't for the stinger... (Major Spoilers)

#1Huff n puff 20Posted 6/24/2013 4:49:19 PM
Firstly just to dissuade any "What Stinger?/What's a Stinger?" Questions: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheStinger
That's a Stinger.
There IS a Stinger.

I really, wouldn't ever pick MU's ending.

Yes, the Stinger sucks- it's cliche and takes what is otherwise a rather heavy choice (yes there are people who can make the choice quickly, I'm one) and lopsides it (have your cake (Kill Grima) and eat it too (Don't die)). But it's literally the -only- reason why I'd consider MU's ending. If it weren't there, I wouldn't question it and pick Chrom's every single time.

Yes, Grima could come back if he's not slain. However it's still hypothetical. Yes, the seal will weaken, but he still needs a vessel, which isn't necessarily easy to come by. (MU was the result of untold generations of selective breeding.) Grima's case clearly is -not- as easy as Loptyr's, so the chance of the Grimleal pulling it off again becomes nearly zero if suddenly they lose their power as a state religion. (Why/How that happened is incredibly dumb. They're an active apocalypse cult. Why the hell they'd be so much as allowed to -live- is questionable at best. Let alone become a State Religion. (Walhart and Chrom's Father had more brains than a good chunk of the cast on that- although their execution was terrible (Chrom's Father somehow lost to Pelgia, and Walhart... invaded Ferox (brilliant move, dumbass)). Kill the dastards now. Genocide? Maybe. Reasonable? Definitely.))

Provided someone actually cared about not letting the weakening seal actually cause problems the simplest solution is best: Kill the Grimleal. Pelgia can't do crap-- they've lost two wars in a damn row, and most of their populace was eaten. Put someone in charge- someone who'll pull a Grannvale (It is hereby illegal to worship Grima. If you worship Grima, you are to be burned at the stake.) And strip those fools of any power they may have (As well as drive the religion to near extinction (Yarne would approve "No, you go extinct!" (as he says to many a Grimleal)). Simply put, that and their 'perfect vessel' and his/her family absolutely betraying them, the Grimleal would be beyond their means to recreate the scenario. Is the idea somewhat twisted? Possibly. But remember what the Grimleal want. You cannot justify their actions.

And that's just one probable solution that doesn't cost MU his/her life. The central point of that choice without that stinger goes to an absolute cost (albeit with absolute results) vs. a hypothetical cost. Call me whatever, but that's not something I'd go for. Never have. (*Glares at a certain game called Sword of Mana*) Never will. Especially in a case like this. Without the stinger, MU dies. Yes, there's meaning in the sacrifice, but in the end a point that is always true, there is no meaning in dying. (There might be meaning in killing, depending on the case, but never in dying.) And what if there is some other way? (Like the listed "Exterminate the Grimleal". Don't let the dastards have a Yeid shrine either. Find that **** and blow it the hell up.) Suddenly then you find that MU died in vain.

Sure there might not be a way to stop his return elsewise, but with half a clue, it certainly can be made to where his return results in his immediate defeat. (Maybe make it not a quest and a half to get the Falchion up to Exalted levels?)
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#2Spitz_of_TFFPosted 6/24/2013 4:50:39 PM
I would do it, stinger or no.
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#3juanyiyiPosted 6/24/2013 4:51:29 PM
Spitz_of_TFF posted...
I would do it, stinger or no.

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#4Huff n puff 20(Topic Creator)Posted 6/24/2013 4:52:27 PM
Spitz_of_TFF posted...
I would do it, stinger or no.


Do justify why.
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#5Spitz_of_TFFPosted 6/24/2013 4:55:45 PM
Why take a chance when you know that if you did it, he'll be gone for a fact? Last I checked, 100%>99% or less.

Plus: go down in history as the man who stopped Grima permanently? SURE!
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#6A_MAZ_INGPosted 6/24/2013 4:56:07 PM
That's actually good logic for picking Chrom's ending if their wasn't that "stinger"
#7RDS1Posted 6/24/2013 4:58:56 PM
There may be no meaning in dying, but in this case, I have to wonder what meaning there is in living.
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#8EnlinoPosted 6/24/2013 5:01:31 PM
Huff n puff 20 posted...
Spitz_of_TFF posted...
I would do it, stinger or no.


Do justify why.


You can just as easily argue the other way. If Grima's not dead, he can wait as long as it takes. Religious cults can and have survived oppression before, and they only need one person to resurrect Grima and destroy the world. In the distant future the falchion/Chrom's bloodline could easily be lost, and even having it is no guarantee for victory, seeing as how they needed a second chance to beat him this time. Killing Grima guarantees that he can never come back, period. (Though if MU could survive, isn't there a chance Grima could too...?)
#9DemiseEndPosted 6/24/2013 5:01:40 PM
"Is the idea somewhat twisted? Possibly. But remember what the Grimleal want. You cannot justify their actions."

http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Maira


the irony
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#10killer759684123Posted 6/24/2013 5:04:38 PM
Enlino posted...
Huff n puff 20 posted...
Spitz_of_TFF posted...
I would do it, stinger or no.


Do justify why.


You can just as easily argue the other way. If Grima's not dead, he can wait as long as it takes. Religious cults can and have survived oppression before, and they only need one person to resurrect Grima and destroy the world. In the distant future the falchion/Chrom's bloodline could easily be lost, and even having it is no guarantee for victory, seeing as how they needed a second chance to beat him this time. Killing Grima guarantees that he can never come back, period. (Though if MU could survive, isn't there a chance Grima could too...?)




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