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(Topic Creator)3 years ago#51
Huff n puff 20 posted...The Ylisseans only really are like "what?!" when it's starting, then Aversa says her line and that's... that.
Repeating it doesn't change anything there. It's never challenged once Aversa explains things. There is little reason to believe anything otherwise.
3 years ago#52
Huff n puff 20 posted...
banjo kazooie posted...Huff n puff 20 posted...The Ylisseans only really are like "what?!" when it's starting, then Aversa says her line and that's... that.
Wait, so the last statement said, even if it contradicts everything so far in the scene, is automatically correct and unquestionable? That's a weird way to assess the validity of statements, purely chronologically with no logical analysis. Nothing in the scene I quoted makes any sense if they're willing, yet because one person says in one line that they are, that's completely irrelevant? Yeah, I'm done arguing, you're just going to ignore any contrary evidence, despite the volume outweighing the supporting evidence.
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(Topic Creator)3 years ago#53
banjo kazooie posted...
Nothing in the scene I quoted makes any sense if they're willing
Except for the fact that it actually does.
BTW: Mecca. Look it up. Those who make that pilgrimage often do act like the Grimleal do in the scene and yet, they're totally willing.
So do plenty of suicide cults.
banjo kazooie posted...
Yeah, I'm done arguing, you're just going to ignore any contrary evidence, despite the volume outweighing the supporting evidence.
You haven't provided any contrary evidence that actually contradicts anything.
3 years ago#54
Huff n puff 20 posted...
Where are you pulling this Morgan thing from, exactly? I can't remember Morgan ever being even considered for the task, on account of every child character except for Lucina essentially being ignored by the plot. Validar doesn't show any sign that he even knows Morgan exists, let alone taking the time to analyze Morgan's suitability.
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3 years ago#55
Huff n puff 20 posted...VirusLord posted...
Not only that, but he/she's not always an only child. Going by what we know of Holy Blood, only 1 child among siblings gets Major if only 1 parent has Major while the other doesn't have any of the other parent's Holy Blood. So it's possible that if say, Morgan and Noire are sisters, Noire could have Major Grima while Morgan gets Minor.
3 years ago#56
This is a rather poor argument. Grima is an ageless being. He is immortal. If time is no longer a factor, it is not a question of if, but a question of when. Grima can wait for an eternity, so it does not matter how slim the chance of him rising is, he will rise. If there is only a .00000000000...000000001 percent chance of him rising again will ever come to pass will ever come every day, eventually the day will come. It is the inevitability of if you keep rolling a die long enough, you will get the number you are looking for.
Just because it is not likely for the threat to reappear for several generations, someone in Robin's family, if he/she figured out who he is, he/she may want the power and reignite the grimeal. That is one way, if the grimeal are destroyed, for them to come back. Your plan to kill all grimeal is a short term plan, and one that would not prevent everything.
Finally, the grimeal is a cult. The people develop a cult mentality meaning, even if they want to leave and know that the cult isn't good for their health, they can't. They are psychologically trapped there.
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3 years ago#57
First of all:
Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends.
I know if I thought there was a chance I could save everyone I loved and the whole world by dying I would take it. Or at least I like to think I would.
Second in a game where time travel and multiple timelines eists does it really matter what option you pick? If the cultists and/or Grima find a way to go to the past (or future if he's sealed) or a different timeline to free Grima it won't make a difference.
3 years ago#58
It's hard to be truly considered willing when you're not given the opportunity to take another path.
Also, given Aversa's position as a... 'charismatic' manipulator and the fact that she acts very much like the high priest(ess) of a fanatic cult, I would very much take her words with a grain of salt. I wouldn't be surprised if she weren't somewhat delusional.
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