Who are your rally bots?

#11I_eat_tablesPosted 6/26/2013 4:26:48 AM(edited)
Sumia and Avatar.

Inb4doingitwrong. But I'm planning out a gen 1 only Apo run, so they're kind of the best choices by far. I might also give another Peg Knight user Rally Speed as a backup, but man, it's much harder to make rallybots when the most valuable normal rally (Speed) is shared only by the ~5 best characters for postgame (everyone with Galeforce).
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#12ToadsteryPosted 6/26/2013 4:25:45 AM
MAtt5TER posted...
From: Toadstery | #005
Shadowgift skill is just so awesome.


Shadowgift is so bad that even All Stats +2 is better.

Sorcerer w/ All Stats +2 > Sage w/ Shadowgift


We all have our opinions. I just clearly have a different style in my strategies.
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#13Huff n puff 20Posted 6/26/2013 4:28:53 AM
MAtt5TER posted...
From: Toadstery | #005
Shadowgift skill is just so awesome.


Shadowgift is so bad that even All Stats +2 is better.

Sorcerer w/ All Stats +2 > Sage w/ Shadowgift


Sage with Shadowgift exploits AI.
Sorc has too high DEF to do so.
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#14MAtt5TERPosted 6/26/2013 4:29:43 AM(edited)
From: Toadstery | #012
We all have our opinions. I just clearly have a different style in my strategies.


You don't understand. It's not an opinion; it's fact. Stat caps are numerically better.

http://serenesforest.net/fe13/class_max.html
Compare Sorcerer w/ All Stats +2 vs. Sage w/ Shadowgift. Sorcerer leads by:
+2 Str
-3 Skl
+2 Lck
+12 Def
+6 Res

You can't argue your way out of this one.

From: Huff n puff 20 | #013
Sage with Shadowgift exploits AI.

What do you mean?
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#15ToadsteryPosted 6/26/2013 4:31:29 AM
MAtt5TER posted...
From: Toadstery | #012
We all have our opinions. I just clearly have a different style in my strategies.


You don't understand. It's not an opinion; it's fact. Stat caps are numerically better.

http://serenesforest.net/fe13/class_max.html
Compare Sorcerer w/ All Stats +2 vs. Sage w/ Shadowgift. Sorcerer leads by:
+2 Str
-3 Skl
+2 Lck
+12 Def
+6 Res

You can't argue your way out of this one.


Arguably, yes you have a point. I'm more of the person who values staff access and stuff here. Numerically better, yes, but my point is my strategy is different.
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#16I_eat_tablesPosted 6/26/2013 4:33:52 AM
I'm expecting someone to make the insane "take more damage, heal more with vengeance" argument soon. That one's always hilarious, as it shows the person totally misses the point of being a tank.

Also All Stats +2 is pretty okay. It's not amazing but it's more than okay. Shadowgift being worse doesn't say much, although Shadowgift is pretty terrible, considering everyone that can get it (which is an extremely limited pool) gets Sorceror, which has it's insane caps.
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#17MAtt5TERPosted 6/26/2013 4:39:35 AM
From: I_eat_tables | #016
Also All Stats +2 is pretty okay.


For the record, All Stats +2 is important for breaking thresholds. It shouldn't be used in this particular manner. I'm just showing that even this build is better than Sage w/ Shadowgift. Used this way, both of a waste of a skill slot.

Sage w/ 5th slot >= Sorcerer w/ 5th slot >= Sorcerer w/ All Stats +2 > Sage w/ Shadowgift
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#18Huff n puff 20Posted 6/26/2013 4:40:00 AM
MAtt5TER posted...

What do you mean?

Does it really need to be explained?

AI prioritizes damage over anything logical and doesn't account for skills that don't affect hard stats.
SG Sage has 29(39 with LB) hard DEF. Carries around Nosferatu, Pavise.
Dancer Olivia has 29/39 as well, but can equip Ragnell.

Enemy will target Morgan to kill themselves (and due to Nos, doesn't do anything to Morg) and leaves Olivia alone.
Obviously doesn't work on Apo, but no form of Nosfertanking does.
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#19MAtt5TERPosted 6/26/2013 4:44:15 AM
Since when were you under the impression that stats have to be capped?

More seriously, if you are going to bait for Nosferatu, you aren't going to put another unit in range.
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#20Rose_MagePosted 6/26/2013 2:56:30 PM
Huff n puff 20 posted...
SazukeEX posted...
Why not use Quan's kids too?


Cause you only really need 2. >_>;;


I thought about that and using a different couple but in the end...Pretty much this.
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