(spoilers) Rate the Character, Xenologue 21: All 5 new Laurents

#1guedesbrawlPosted 8/23/2013 5:58:10 AM
How should Noire and Nah's xenologues be done? Please participate and rate something too! - Results (34 votes)
5-in-1, like Laurent and Yarne's.
79.41% (27 votes)
27
3 per day, like usual.
20.59% (7 votes)
7
This poll is now closed.
Welcome to my Series, Rate the Character! Here, we will be analyzing each and every combination of 2nd generation characters, and giving them a rank of D (lowest), C, B, A and S (Highest). These topics usually will last just a single day, so be careful not to miss them!

There is a list of the currently rated characters with a small intro to each rank for you to use as a base, if you are having trouble. But first, what do we use as a base for ranking the kids? What we SHOULDN'T consider? If you are not sure on how to proceed, take a look here:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/643003-fire-emblem-awakening/66253616

You can also nominate previously rated pairings to be brought back and re-discussed. There are more details in this topic, make sure you read it if you are nominating:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/643003-fire-emblem-awakening/66329592

sorry for the wait again... blame Azn for making me trip.

BONUS! Everybody gets two nominations! Again.

And my message has this weird TOS violation warning thing again. Proceed with caution.

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Nominations:
*3/3:
Stahl!Gerome
*2/3:
Lon'qu!Inigo
Virion!Inigo
Stahl!Inigo
*1/3:
Donnel!Brady
Kellam!Gerome
Kellam!Yarne
Ricken!Yarne
Vaike!Nah
Kellam!Nah
Gaius!Nah
+Chrom!Gerome
+Cherche!Lucina
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Character Ranking:

S Rank: The very best pairings, Avatar notwithstanding.
*Sumia!Lucina (!A)
*Olivia!Lucina (!A)
*Ricken!Owain (!A)
*Chrom!Inigo
*Frederick!Inigo (!A)
*Ricken!Inigo (!A)
*Libra!Inigo (!A)
*Henry!Brady
*Lon'qu!Brady (!A)
*Gaius!Brady (!A)
*Gregor!Brady (!A)
*Donnel!Kjelle
*Gaius!Kjelle (!A)
*Gaius!Cynthia (!A)
*Henry!Cynthia
*Frederick!Severa
*Stahl!Severa
*Lon'qu!Severa (!)
*Ricken!Severa (!A)
*Stahl!Gerome
*Gregor!Laurent
*Donnel!Noire (!A)
*Gaius!Noire
*Gregor!Noire (!A)
+Cordelia!Lucina
+Say'ri!Lucina
+Aversa!Lucina
+Stahl!Cynthia
+Lon'qu!Cynthia
+Ricken!Cynthia
+Gregor!Cynthia
+Yen'fay!Cynthia
+Priam!Cynthia
+Chrom!Owain
+Basilio!Owain
+Walhart!Owain
+Yen'fay!Brady
+Chrom!Severa
+Walhart!Severa
+Yen'fay!Severa
+Priam!Severa

A Rank: Great pairings, can't go wrong picking those.
*Maribelle!Lucina (!B)
*Stahl!Owain (!B)
*Libra!Owain
*Henry!Owain
*Stahl!Inigo
*Kellam!Inigo
*Henry!Inigo
*Libra!Brady (!)
*Vaike!Kjelle (!S)
*Gregor!Kjelle (!S)
*Libra!Kjelle (!B)
*Henry!Kjelle
*Chrom!Cynthia (!)
*Frederick!Cynthia
*Vaike!Severa (!)
*Kellam!Severa (!)
*Gaius!Severa
*Gregor!Severa
*Frederick!Gerome (!S)
*Gregor!Gerome (!S)
*Frederick!Yarne
*Stahl!Yarne (!S)
*Kellam!Yarne
*Ricken!Yarne
*Gaius!Yarne (!)
*Gregor!Yarne (!S)
*Frederick!Laurent
*Stahl!Laurent
*Lon'qu!Laurent
*Gaius!Laurent
*Stahl!Noire (!)
*Frederick!Nah
*Vaike!Nah
*Kellam!Nah
*Gaius!Nah
*Gregor!Nah
+Lissa!Lucina
+Tharja!Lucina
+Flavia!Lucina
+Virion!Cynthia
+Vaike!Cynthia
+Libra!Cynthia
+Basilio!Cynthia
+Priam!Owain
+Basilio!Inigo
+Basilio!Brady
+Walhart!Brady
+Priam!Kjelle
+Basilio!Severa
+Chrom!Gerome
+Basilio!Gerome
+Basilio!Yarne
+Walhart!Yarne
+Priam!Yarne
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Here's hoping that Chrom will do Aether correctly in SSB4...
#2guedesbrawl(Topic Creator)Posted 8/23/2013 5:59:03 AM
B Rank: Good pairings. Can work decently.
*Frederick!Owain
*Kellam!Owain
*Virion!Inigo
*Virion!Brady
*Vaike!Brady (!)
*Stahl!Brady
*Kellam!Brady
*Donnel!Brady
*Virion!Severa
*Kellam!Gerome
*Vaike!Gerome (!A)
*Lon'qu!Gerome
*Ricken!Gerome
*Gaius!Gerome
*Henry!Gerome
*Donnel!Yarne
*Lon'qu!Yarne
*Kellam!Laurent
*Donnel!Laurent
*Ricken!Laurent
*Frederick!Noire
*Vaike!Noire
*Virion!Noire
*Kellam!Noire
*Ricken!Noire
*Lon'qu!Noire
*Henry!Noire
*Stahl!Nah
*Donnel!Nah (!A)
*Ricken!Nah
*Henry!Nah
+Nowi!Lucina
+Donnel!Cynthia
+Walhart!Cynthia
+Walhart!Gerome
+Yen'fay!Gerome
+Priam!Gerome
+Chrom!Yarne
+Yen'fay!Yarne

C Rank: Average and limited pairings.
*Sully!Lucina
*Virion!Owain
*Vaike!Owain
*Donnel!Owain (!B)
*Lon'qu!Owain (!)
*Gaius!Owain
*Gregor!Owain (!B)
*Lon'qu!Inigo
*Chrom!Brady
*Frederick!Brady
*Ricken!Brady (!)
*Virion!Kjelle
*Kellam!Kjelle
*Lon'qu!Kjelle
*Ricken!Kjelle
*Libra!Severa
*Henry!Severa
*Libra!Gerome
*Virion!Yarne
*Vaike!Yarne
*Libra!Yarne
*Henry!Yarne
*Virion!Laurent
*Vaike!Laurent
*Libra!Noire
*Lon'qu!Nah
*Libra!Nah
+Miriel!Lucina
+Panne!Lucina
+Anna!Lucina
+Cherche!Lucina
+Kellam!Cynthia
+Yen'fay!Inigo
+Yen'fay!Kjelle

D Rank: Awful pairings. Cripples the kids, or are useless.
*Maiden!Lucina
*Vaike!Inigo (!C)
*Donnel!Inigo
*Gaius!Inigo (!C)
*Gregor!Inigo
*Frederick!Kjelle
*Chrom!Kjelle
*Stahl!Kjelle
*Donnel!Severa
*Virion!Gerome
*Donnel!Gerome
*Libra!Laurent
*Virion!Nah

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*Default Laurent:

Classes Available: Mage, Sage, Dark Mage, Sorceror, Dark Knight. Barbarian, Berserker, Warrior, Dread Fighter.

Skills Available: Magic +2, Focus, Rally Magic, Tomefaire, Hex, Anathema, Vengeance, tomebreaker, Slow Burn, Lifetaker, Despoil, Gamble, Wrath, Axefaire, Rally Strength, Counter, Resistance +10, Aggressor, All Stats +2, Paragon, Iote's Shield, Limit Breaker.

Special Inheritance: Resistance +2, Demoiselle, Rally Resistance, Dual Support+, Rally Luck and Renewal.
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*Chrom!Laurent:

*New Classes Available: Cavalier, Paladin, Great Knight, Archer, Sniper, Bow Knight.

*New Skills Available: Discipline, Outdoor Fighter, Defender, Aegis, Luna, Dual Guard+, Skill +2, Prescience, Hit Rate +20, Bowfaire, Rally Skill, Bowbreaker.

*Special Inheritance: Rightful King.

*Modifiers:
+4 Magic.
+3 Skill and Speed.
+2 Luck.
0 Strength and Resistance.
-2 Defense.
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Good mods. Laurent only really gets Great Knight out of this whole pairing, allowing him to be a good support as a Sage and maybe Berseker. But that's it, really. He is slightly worse than his sister because Valkyrie is better than Berserker in this case. You know, this deserves a B. I guess Miriel!Lucina will get a nomination for me later...

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*Basilio!Laurent:

*New Classes Available: Knight, General, Great Knight, Fighter, Hero.

*New Skills Available: Defense +2, Indoor Fighter, Rally Defense, Pavise, Luna, Dual Guard+, HP +5, Zeal, Sol, Axebreaker.

*Modifiers:
+3 Speed and Skill.
+2 Strength and Magic.
0 Defense, Resistance and Luck.
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Very Balanced. Laurent gets Pavise and Luna, so he can do well as a tanky sorceror even without Aegis. He also gets sol for use in a similar set, albeit a less effective one due to the lack of skills to go with it, and can support as an Hero. Decent enough, A rank for now.
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Here's hoping that Chrom will do Aether correctly in SSB4...
#3guedesbrawl(Topic Creator)Posted 8/23/2013 6:05:58 AM
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*Walhart!Laurent:

*New Classes Available: Knight, General, Great Knight, Fighter, Hero, Wyvern Rider, Wyvern Lord, Griffon Rider.

*New Skills Available: Defense +2, Indoor Fighter, Rally Defense, Pavise, Luna, Dual Guard+, HP +5, Zeal, Sol, Axebreaker, Strength +2, Tantivity, Quick Burn, Swordbreaker, Deliverer, Lancebreaker.

*Special Inheritance: Conquest

*Modifiers:
+3 Strength and Defense
+2 Magic and Skill.
+1 Speed.
0 Luck.
-1 Resistance.
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Basically the above pairing with small mod change and the addition of the filler rider class. doesn't change much, still a rank.

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*Yen'fay!Laurent:

*New Classes Available: Wyvern Rider, Wyvern Lord, Griffon Rider, Myrmidon, Swordmaster, Archer, Sniper, Bow Knight.

*New Skills Available: Strength +2, Tantivity, Quick Burn, Swordbreaker, Deliverer, Lancebreaker, Avoid +10, Vantage, Astra, Swordfaire, Skill +2, Prescience, Hit Rate +20, Bowfaire, Rally Skill, Bowbreaker.

*Modifiers:
+6 Speed.
+4 Skill.
+2 Magic.
+1 Luck.
0 Strength.
-1 Resistance.
-2 Defense
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Vantage for is great for Laurent, and you know why that is. Wyvern rider is a filler class like always, and we get access to Assassin with Bowfaire, if you want to. A rank like Lon'qu!Laurent.

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*Priam!Laurent:

*New Classes Available: Mercenary, Hero, Bow Knight, Myrmidon, Swordmaster, Fighter.

*New Skills Available: Armsthrift, Patience, Sol, Axebreaker, Bowfaire, Rally Skill, Bowbreaker, Avoid +10, Vantage, Astra, Swordfaire, HP +5, Zeal.

*Special Inheritance: Luna, Swordbreaker, Lancebreaker.

*Modifiers:
+3 Skill.
+2 Strength, Magic and Speed.
+1 Luck and Defense.
-1 Resistance.
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Balanced mods. Basically Gregor Laurent with Fighter and Luna. Sorceror Laurent has his full set again, and Luna can be great. He also is a good Physical lead with 3 good classes to choose from (Berserker, Hero and Assassin), with the skills to match. S rank.
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Here's hoping that Chrom will do Aether correctly in SSB4...
#4azn_boy150Posted 8/23/2013 6:57:51 AM
Go my tumbleweeds! Go!
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Currently hiding out in Morocco, playing Pictionary with Jesus and Robot Hitler.
#5guedesbrawl(Topic Creator)Posted 8/23/2013 7:02:17 AM
azn_boy150 posted...
Go my tumbleweeds! Go!


NOOOOOOOOO!
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Here's hoping that Chrom will do Aether correctly in SSB4...
#6CarmineSwordPosted 8/23/2013 8:02:45 AM
Chrom!Laurent: B
Basilio!Laurent: B
Walhart!Laurent: B
Yen'fay!Laurent: A
Priam!Laurent: S

I thought Priam and Miriel's conflicting mods would totally gimp Laurent's mods but the mods he gets from that pairing arn't too bad.
#7guedesbrawl(Topic Creator)Posted 8/23/2013 8:29:09 AM
So, here i was, playing Grinding for bolts/E-tanks on Megaman 7, when i felt a weird itch on my leg. It started bothering me, so i went to the bathroon to take a look, and i found... a baby wasp. It had bitten me twice.

I captured it and slowly took my time to execute me revenge. with fire.
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Here's hoping that Chrom will do Aether correctly in SSB4...
#8HanierPosted 8/23/2013 9:14:11 AM
Why the hell is Ricken!Brady a C while Libra!Brady is an A?

I give up.
#9guedesbrawl(Topic Creator)Posted 8/23/2013 9:19:34 AM
Hanier posted...
Why the hell is Ricken!Brady a C while Libra!Brady is an A?

I give up.


Eh, i tried to make it go up...
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Here's hoping that Chrom will do Aether correctly in SSB4...
#10HanierPosted 8/23/2013 9:32:20 AM
guedesbrawl posted...
Eh, i tried to make it go up...


it's frustrating because it's literally the only mods-only pairing ranked A. (Yes, Anathema is a nice filler skill. No, it's not significantly better than anything in Brady's base set.) Every other A-rank gives at least two classes, and most of them give three. Libra!Brady gives one. And it's really more like one-half, since Brady has Dark Knight as base.

Why does Libra!Brady get away with being an un-versatile (because why would you ever use Sorcerer over Sage on Brady?) mods-only pairing when every other pairing in the same rank either a.) gives the child new classes that they can work with, or b.) gives skills that significantly help the child fulfill the niche the child already has?