Can we have another FE Lord like Leif?

#1GalwenPosted 3/2/2014 12:55:52 AM
He's less of a gary stu than various other FE Lords like Ike.
#2RJWalker243Posted 3/2/2014 1:06:59 AM
Then again, he's ignorance puts FE3 Marth to shame.
#3Galwen(Topic Creator)Posted 3/2/2014 1:11:21 AM(edited)
RJWalker243 posted...
Then again, he's ignorance puts FE3 Marth to shame.


At least he never acted like somebody with 20th century views (Ike).
#4RJWalker243Posted 3/2/2014 1:15:35 AM
Galwen posted...
RJWalker243 posted...
Then again, he's ignorance puts FE3 Marth to shame.


At least he never acted like somebody with 20th century views (Ike).


Well, Ike is supposed to be a blank sheet as opposed to other lords in the series who are meant to be more yet fail and come across as blank sheets. Ike having such neutral views on everything doesn't bother me because almost everyone else is still very extreme in their opinions. You're always bound to find a few who hold modern views.
#5Galwen(Topic Creator)Posted 3/2/2014 1:40:17 AM(edited)
Ike mouths off to the Apostle but gets away with it and gets Soren along with Nasir to support him. He helps the Talrega citizens even though him doing so is advised against. He has the army go to help Geoffrey against Lucia and Bastian's advice. And he keeps on either getting no comeuppance or his "comeuppance" isn't enough of a big deal. Ike gets to act how he wants without being shown to be all that ineffective.
#6SilverZangoosePosted 3/2/2014 2:30:56 AM
Galwen posted...
Ike mouths off to the Apostle but gets away with it and gets Soren along with Nasir to support him. He helps the Talrega citizens even though him doing so is advised against. He has the army go to help Geoffrey against Lucia and Bastian's advice. And he keeps on either getting no comeuppance or his "comeuppance" isn't enough of a big deal. Ike gets to act how he wants without being shown to be all that ineffective.


So he's a bad character because he says what's on his mind, and helps good or innocent people when they're in danger. Oh yeah, he sounds like a real monster, lol. There are Lords who have done way stupider s*** than Ike, and who don't get called out for it, or made to suffer for it.

Eirika comes to mind, when she gives the blatantly lying Lyon her Sacred Stone, which he promptly destroys. The way that game is written is basically "There was this Demon King who was so powerful that all these ancient heroes couldn't even stop him, so they had to seal him away. What's that Eirika, you got the only thing that could seal him away destroyed? Doesn't matter lol, just have a few normal humans attack him, and he'll be destroyed forever." Then we have Eliwood who slays his love interest without even thinking about it, only to have her magicked back to life in a few chapters time. Also there's Ephraim who literally takes on an entire nation with only three soldiers, one of which is a traitor, and somehow manages to not die due to the power of bad writing.
#7RJWalker243Posted 3/2/2014 2:45:40 AM
SilverZangoose posted...
Galwen posted...
Ike mouths off to the Apostle but gets away with it and gets Soren along with Nasir to support him. He helps the Talrega citizens even though him doing so is advised against. He has the army go to help Geoffrey against Lucia and Bastian's advice. And he keeps on either getting no comeuppance or his "comeuppance" isn't enough of a big deal. Ike gets to act how he wants without being shown to be all that ineffective.


So he's a bad character because he says what's on his mind, and helps good or innocent people when they're in danger. Oh yeah, he sounds like a real monster, lol. There are Lords who have done way stupider s*** than Ike, and who don't get called out for it, or made to suffer for it.

Eirika comes to mind, when she gives the blatantly lying Lyon her Sacred Stone, which he promptly destroys. The way that game is written is basically "There was this Demon King who was so powerful that all these ancient heroes couldn't even stop him, so they had to seal him away. What's that Eirika, you got the only thing that could seal him away destroyed? Doesn't matter lol, just have a few normal humans attack him, and he'll be destroyed forever." Then we have Eliwood who slays his love interest without even thinking about it, only to have her magicked back to life in a few chapters time. Also there's Ephraim who literally takes on an entire nation with only three soldiers, one of which is a traitor, and somehow manages to not die due to the power of bad writing.


Eliwood accidently killing Ninian is a bad example of what you're trying to say.
#8SilverZangoosePosted 3/2/2014 3:19:21 AM
RJWalker243 posted...
SilverZangoose posted...
Galwen posted...
Ike mouths off to the Apostle but gets away with it and gets Soren along with Nasir to support him. He helps the Talrega citizens even though him doing so is advised against. He has the army go to help Geoffrey against Lucia and Bastian's advice. And he keeps on either getting no comeuppance or his "comeuppance" isn't enough of a big deal. Ike gets to act how he wants without being shown to be all that ineffective.


So he's a bad character because he says what's on his mind, and helps good or innocent people when they're in danger. Oh yeah, he sounds like a real monster, lol. There are Lords who have done way stupider s*** than Ike, and who don't get called out for it, or made to suffer for it.

Eirika comes to mind, when she gives the blatantly lying Lyon her Sacred Stone, which he promptly destroys. The way that game is written is basically "There was this Demon King who was so powerful that all these ancient heroes couldn't even stop him, so they had to seal him away. What's that Eirika, you got the only thing that could seal him away destroyed? Doesn't matter lol, just have a few normal humans attack him, and he'll be destroyed forever." Then we have Eliwood who slays his love interest without even thinking about it, only to have her magicked back to life in a few chapters time. Also there's Ephraim who literally takes on an entire nation with only three soldiers, one of which is a traitor, and somehow manages to not die due to the power of bad writing.


Eliwood accidently killing Ninian is a bad example of what you're trying to say.


He didn't "accidentally" kill her, he fully intended to kill the dragon, he just wasn't aware it was her. And if you think about it logically, the dragon couldn't have been anyone other than her. Basically all the dragons in existence were behind the Dragon's Gate, except for Ninian and Nils. The only way to open the Dragon's Gate was with Ninian and Nils. This couldn't have happened, since Nils was with him. Therefore the dragon had to be her. Also, how is it a bad example? He acted without thinking, got someone he cared about killed, and had it all fixed by magic. If you're going to say something like that, back it up with actual reasons lol.
#9jeffhengPosted 3/2/2014 3:31:14 AM
Lmao. Some ppl are just amusing.

He fully intended to kill the dragon, he just wasnt aware the dragon was her = he accidentally killed her.
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#10RJWalker243Posted 3/2/2014 3:37:13 AM
It may have been obvious to us because we're players and have outside perspective but the characters in the game genuinely weren't aware that Ninian and Nils were dragons and had very little reason to assume so.