Is it a good idea to have the female avatar marry Chrom? (no spoilers)

#41VascelaPosted 8/4/2014 10:54:29 AM(edited)
guedesbrawl posted...
yes, 2 morgans > 1 morgan

which mena ChromxRobin is the best pairing for FEMU


FeMU x Chrom is best for FeMU and Chrom. I don't have any data to support Chrom!Morgan and FeMU!Lucina. I will say it gives you 2 kids with veteran as early as possible in the story if you choose to use them. Since some people don't like using children during the campaign, but love to talk about builds for Apotheosis.

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#42DoramiPosted 8/4/2014 11:04:34 AM
Just because you are OK with it doesn't mean it suddenly doesn't exist. A flaw is a flaw.
It is not a flaw. You defined the measuring criterion as clearing xenologue with 100% certainty. There are only 2 categories: yes and no.

Every other measuring criterion is extra. Flaws under those criterion are only flaws to those who care about the criterion.
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#43VascelaPosted 8/4/2014 11:10:09 AM
Dorami posted...
Just because you are OK with it doesn't mean it suddenly doesn't exist. A flaw is a flaw.
It is not a flaw. You defined the measuring criterion as clearing xenologue with 100% certainty. There are only 2 categories: yes and no.

Every other measuring criterion is extra. Flaws under those criterion are only flaws to those who care about the criterion.


And you clearly don't care about spending much extra time grinding out extra characters buying extra weapons, second sealing more times, and being even more marriage dependent.

Can you still clear it? I never said you couldn't. But I can say with absolute certainty that Lucina will never clear it by chapter 12.

Chapter 12 has resource X. Chapter 14 has resources X + Y.

Y is an addition that is required for you, but obsolete for me. You require additional time, resources, etc. I cannot help explain this any further. If you still don't understand, then you can still feel free to disagree. Amount of work is subjective, but it is not invisible/disregarded.
#44DoramiPosted 8/4/2014 11:29:37 AM
Chapter 12 has resource X. Chapter 14 has resources X + Y.

Y is an addition that is required for you, but obsolete for me. You require additional time, resources, etc

The amount of resource needed does not factor into the measuring criteria: Is it beatable?

You can say with absolute certainty that Lucina cannot clear by chapter 12, but "by chapter 12" is an extra criterion.
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#45VascelaPosted 8/4/2014 11:32:49 AM
The point is that Lucina requires resource Y. It's a resource whether you like it or not. Whether you hate it or not. Whether you find it not fair. It doesn't matter. It exists. It's a flaw. It's something you need. It's extra time. It's extra work. It's an extra resource.

It's a flaw that exists. That's the difference. You can question it by saying "it's not that much work" or "I actually enjoy grinding" or whatever. The point is that it exists.
#46Aninymous3Posted 8/4/2014 2:19:11 PM
Vascela posted...
So you can get spotpass characters without DLC, huh? I wasn't sure if you could or not, since I bought mine early on.

Idk if you consider wireless menu DLC. It's always been in my game and I never payed extra for it. Downloadable content seemed to be the stuff you had to go into the eshop or the outrealm gate to buy.

And you grind all those skills onto those two units with just the main game up until chapter 12? Seriously? No Reeking Box, no nothing? Hard to believe there are enough enemies to even make that happen. I've never attempted anything like what you're saying, so please excuse me if I'm a bit incredulous. Just seems hard to believe. When do you find time to grind any skills necessary onto the rally bots? I've never bothered with rally bots so I don't know if the spotpass characters come with all the rallies already or not.

Technically, you can grind in multiple ways in this game. If I could go back in time and get golden gaffe or paragon it would help a lot. I personally didn't do it on chapter 12 (but I could have). Some wireless menu characters have some, but they have the avatar class selection so you can just pick whatever and go with it.

It seems like it would take careful planning, since, say, if both Chrom and Robin were Snipers and were paired up, it would be easy to get surrounded by 4 enemies and be unable to do anything. But I guess that's unlikely since Sniper is Chrom's ending class.

Even though they have S rank, you can pair them up with someone at 1 range lol.


So you used spotpass teams to grind, then?

I just want to be clear, because the vague sense of your answers thus far had me initially believing you were claiming you could just play the game with just Chrom and FemRobin up until chapter 12, stop, and challege Apo, which isn't apparently what you mean. I'm not saying that's what you meant, but that's the sense of what you said that I inferred, erroneously or not.
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#47VascelaPosted 8/4/2014 3:15:14 PM
So you used spotpass teams to grind, then?

I just want to be clear, because the vague sense of your answers thus far had me initially believing you were claiming you could just play the game with just Chrom and FemRobin up until chapter 12, stop, and challege Apo, which isn't apparently what you mean. I'm not saying that's what you meant, but that's the sense of what you said that I inferred, erroneously or not.


As in you do not need to enter chapter 13...? I'm saying at that point in time, your resources at your disposal is X. That amount of available resources is all you need. Max stats are used for consistency, so yes, you would grind. Not grinding for Apotheosis is not preparing yourself. It is not "Chapter opens up hop in the gate." It's "Chapter opens up, I don't need to progress any farther to complete this with 100% certainty. Anything else is obsolete/overkill to our current knowledge."
#48McTCMPosted 8/7/2014 1:31:18 AM
Vascela posted...
McTCM posted...
Vascela posted...
In terms of gameplay, Chrom x Avatar is hands-down the best pairing in the maingame; it's considerably less good in the postgame for reasons, but still perfectly usable in its own way.

Considerably less good, and usable? They clear Apotheosis 100% consistently by chapter 12.

What is "good" to you?

What is so special about chapter 12?
(Can't get S rank support till c12?)


It's because no other characters have the data to our knowledge capable of doing that. Mainly because they don't exist. Why bother training units that are "good" on paper, but not as good in execution? At the end of the day, theory is nice, but raw data trumps it.


Most useless answer ever. (Couple of days too late)

I ask a serious question.
It is a few days ago I realized the reason for chapter 12. It's Olivia and nothing else.

Thx for being "usefull".

And I feel like challenging your "only chromxMU" can do it. (When I get the free time)
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#49AxCWsPosted 8/7/2014 8:59:07 AM
I think it's the Rescue staves you can buy in chapter 12. Otherwise you could probably do something funny as soon as spotpass opens up with Chrom and Sumia.
#50rmac5Posted 8/7/2014 9:21:54 AM
I_eat_tables posted...
Yes. Robin x Chrom is by far the best in-game pairing. Morgan starts as a Tactician in this pairing, which is incredibly helpful, as well as likely getting very good base stats. You also get the best possible Lucina. On top of that Chrom x Robin gives a lot of benefits to the two involved - they both have skills that benefit from pair ups, they're usually going to be your two best units which can be both a blessing and a curse (it's often nice to have your two best units separate - but you can always just pair up with other characters for this). There's a lot of benefits and pretty much the only downside is that Chrom passes a bad skill on to Morgan (but starting as a Tactician means starting with Veteran, which more than makes up for it).


Sorry, I don't understand some of this. I am also on my first playthrough. I am at the part where Chrom and me (female avatar named Robin) have had a baby, Lucina, and we are fighting the baddies on the port--helping Flavia with her invasion. Who is Morgan?
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