For Fun! Genderbent 1st gen optimization pairings! (+ optional related topics)

#1guedesbrawlPosted 8/18/2014 6:26:24 PM(edited)
So, what if rule 63 happened in FEA? The main topic here is optimization, but feel free to comment about other aspects the change could bring!

For the purposes of this topic, we will DISCONSIDER all the characters who can only S rank robin as well as every 2nd gen person (so in other words, the Khans, Say'ri, and every Paralogue person), I'll do a few slight chances to some class sets though, let's see how this works.

for people with gender-specific classes, we will swap things around based on what they originally give to their opposite gender kids or what would make sense for they to have, if you have any doubts on why i changed what i did, just ask, i'll clarify, for i have my reasons to change what i did. mods stay the same, just don't forget to account for DLC classes, i won't list those initially...

Edit: Mr. Pick a God and pray managed to avoid the genderbent and stays a Male. (in hindsight Frederick would probably be a pegasus knight if female, so this works better.)

the list of classes of the new gen 1!

F!Chrom: Lord, Cavalier, Pegasus.
Robin: You don't really expect me to list it, do you?
M!Lissa: Priest, Mage, Archer.
M!Frederick: Cavalier, Knight, Wyvern.
M!Sully: Cavalier, Myrmidon, Wyvern.
F!Virion: Archer, Mage, Wyvern.
F!Stahl: Pegasus, Archer, Myrmidon.
M!Miriel: Mage, Dark Mage, Barbarian. (Passes Troubadour)
F!Vaike: Mercenary, Thief, Knight. (Passes Fighter and Barbarian)
M!Sumia: Cavalier, Priest, Knight. (Passes Pegasus Knight instead of Cavalier)
F!Kellam: Knight, Thief, Cleric.
F!Donnel: Villager (yes, female only), Mercenary, Pegasus. (Passes Fighter and Cavalier)
F!Lon'qu: Myrmidon, Thief, Wyvern.
F!Ricken: Mage, Pegasus, Archer.
M!Maribelle: Priest , Mage, Cavalier. (Passes Troubadour)
M!Panne: Taguel, Thief, Wyvern. (Passes Barbarian instead of Wyvern for sons)
F!Gaius: Thief, Pegasus, Myrmidon.
M!Cordelia: Cavalier, Mercenary, Dark Mage. (Passes Pegasus Knight instead of Cavalier)
F!Gregor: Mercenary, Myrmidon, Troubadour. (Passes Barbarian)
M!Nowi: Manakete, Mage, Wyvern.
F!Libra: Troubadour (starts as War cleric, passes Priest), Dark Mage, Mage
M!Tharja: Dark Mage, Barbarian, Knight. (Passes Archer)
M!Olivia: Bard, Myrmidon, Archer. (Passes Mercenary)
M!Cherche: Wyvern Rider, Fighter, Mercenary. (Passes Cleric and Troubadour)
F!Henry: Dark Mage, Troubadour, Thief. (Passes Barbarian)

So...

For "females" with gender specific inheritances, they will have sons. by default. In other words, Vaike, Gaius, Gregor, Donnel and Henry have sons by default. Since i changed Libra's "Cleric" tree for Troubadour, we'd be giving "her" a son that inherits Priest too, okay?

so, these "ladies" here have daughters:
Chrom
Virion
Stahl
Ricken
Lon'qu
Kellam

while these have sons:
Vaike
Gaius
Gregor
Donnel
Libra
Henry



Problem is, this thing leaves us with only 11 guys to handle stuff. So let's make a M!Robin, and have him marry one of these girls, okay? ... or if you want, Chrom can marry a generic guy to free a spot... but that wouldn't be full optimization, now, would it? hum...


Okay.

Chrom, Ricken and Stahl's Daughters automatically inherit Pegasus Knight, while Donnel, Henry and Gaius's sons should have that sweet Galeforce inheritance. Meanwhile, Robin, Cordelia and Sumia are our Galeforce fathers.

So we'd need to have those 3 marry one of Libra, Gregor and Vaike. that's my tip for you guys!

i'll leave the rest to the interested for now, later i'll do my own pairs
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#2guedesbrawl(Topic Creator)Posted 8/18/2014 6:14:56 PM(edited)
damn, i forgot kellam

i didn't mean to, i swear!


...please don't post yet. i gotta mess around with this some more.
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#3astrophysPosted 8/18/2014 6:24:50 PM(edited)
EDIT: Oops, didn't see the request not to postů. oh well, too late now. Sorry about that.


For some of them: why exactly have their classes changed?

For instance: Chrom's Cavalier and Archer aren't gender exclusives, so really there is no real reason to suppose that the rule 63 version of him magically has Pegasus Knight (it would be great for passing on to her children, but it isn't justified by the original Chrom's classes).


Or why does Male!Tharja lose access to Knight and get Barbarian? Female (normal) Tharja has Knight and its not a gender-exclusive.

etc.
#4guedesbrawl(Topic Creator)Posted 8/18/2014 6:38:12 PM
astrophys posted...
EDIT: Oops, didn't see the request not to postů. oh well, too late now. Sorry about that.


For some of them: why exactly have their classes changed?

For instance: Chrom's Cavalier and Archer aren't gender exclusives, so really there is no real reason to suppose that the rule 63 version of him magically has Pegasus Knight (it would be great for passing on to her children, but it isn't justified by the original Chrom's classes).

In order to not have to give a male-exclusive class to M!Maribelle i gave what she passed to Brady, which led me to transfer the excluded Pegasus Knight for the extra Cavalier.

Or why does Male!Tharja lose access to Knight and get Barbarian? Female (normal) Tharja has Knight and its not a gender-exclusive.

anything else?-

etc.


i changed F!Chrom to pegasus because i'd imagine M! wouldn't get cavalier due to being frailer, magicky guy. I didn't want TWO royal archers, so i'd transfer Lissa's old Pegasus knight to Chrom.

Tharja lost access to Archer, not Knight. i did that because Tharja has archer, i think, mostly due to her being a fanservice character, since F!Archers have a big bust, so the equivalent Fanservice class would be Barbarian... which is also missing from Henry.

i gave M!Sumia Cavalier to make the chapter 3 cutscene still feasible, that kinda forced me to give the same class to M!Cordelia
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#5guedesbrawl(Topic Creator)Posted 8/18/2014 6:56:19 PM
So, pairings.

as usual, the priority is passing Galeforce to the girls that don't have it by default. so!

F!Virion, F!Kellam and F!Lon'qu are the danger ladies this time, and their partners need to be one of Robin, M!Sumia or M!Cordelia

the old LonquxCoredelia should be valid for the same reasons as before: VV Galeforce, good classes and mods. the only thing is that it's even better due to M!Cordelia being able to pass one of Luna, Aegis or DG+, even if you don't use them, it's still a plus

i think the other 2 are a matter of preference, but since Kellam and Sumia have similar class sets, i think it would be on their best interest to have F!VirionxM!Sumia (great speed, but frail) and Robinx F!Kellam could work... surprisingly, the best way (in general )to spread this is giving Robin to the tank again. it's the worst morgan of the trio though.

i'll do the rest tomorrow
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#6SpellcraftQuillPosted 8/18/2014 8:35:39 PM
So Laurent becomes first gen and Libra wears a dress?
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#7guedesbrawl(Topic Creator)Posted 8/19/2014 3:30:18 AM(edited)
SpellcraftQuill posted...
So Laurent becomes first gen and Libra wears a dress?


yeah... except M!Miriel doesn't get Valkyrie inheritance, and F!Libra has a bit more going for her thanks to that same class tree.
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#8Chrizzel28Posted 8/19/2014 3:43:52 AM
Ricken would probably be my waifu in that situation, which I don't mind, he's pretty swell.
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