Weapons, abilities

#1YUGGLE123Posted 7/12/2013 8:28:41 AM
So, I have heard a lot of people lately saying this games boring, always the same, no competition, and it will be, if you make it that way, what I mean is, you have your set classes with your set abilities and your set upgrades. I was getting abut bored, until I did this. Change them, try things you never use, upgrades or guns. Eg. Lately I have been using sonic blast on the scatter blaster, instead of fireblast, ion cartridge on riot cannon, cyber tactical scope on PBR, challenge yourself, use upgrades or weapons you aren't used to, use weapons out never do, this games only boring if you make it, and it will be if you always be the same. I even try going no upgrades, just to change it up a hit and challenge myself. Sometimes you might even find something alot better than what you normally use, I have found this with the scatter blaster. So, I encourage you guys to use different weapons and upgrades, even if you aren't to good with them, heck, even try different armor sets that you have never tried, change up your game, trust me, it makes it a lot less boring. A fun thing I found was to hit the randomize button just before a match, and whatever pops up, just go with it, even
If it does look stupid XD

This game is what you make of it, so don't complain if you make it boring :)
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#2sephiroth068Posted 7/12/2013 9:15:58 AM
man I seem to be the only one that ever goes with Sonic Blast for the Scatter Blaster it seems sometimes...most typically pick Fireblast or Ion Cartridge for obvious reasons I suppose but almost always overlook Sonic Blast in terms of usefulness and lethality

probably my favorite upgrade for it followed by Fireblast. Like it due to the increased fire rate that brings it back to the fire rate that WFC Scatter Blaster was...youd be surprised how quick you can drop someone with it. Tends to surprise the enemy (and even me sometimes lol) because they arent expecting such a fast firing Scatter Blaster most of the time...and some say that the Scatter Blaster fires pretty fast already to which I say lol. It did get a buff to fire rate in one of the patches which was well needed because I do remember it being even slower but it still isnt as fast as it used to be from WFC but Sonic Blast remedies that

anyways on topic...this is why im not bored of FOC despite having Primed and maxed out all my classes again...each loadout I have has different combinations of weapons. The only thing they have in common for me is that each class has the same primary weapon (Infiltrator = Scatter Blaster, Destroyer = Riot Cannon, Titan = X18 Scrapmaker, Scientist = Neutron Assault Rifle) cause thats just the way I role
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#3YUGGLE123(Topic Creator)Posted 7/12/2013 10:08:47 AM
Yer, I think people often forget that fireblast reduces initial bullet damage, and that the scatter blaster is technically a shotgun. So, with sonic blast, up close and in fin aim, 3 or 4 shots is more than enough for an enemy Infiltrator or scientist, and 5 or 6, for titans and destroyers, and titans it's easy to aim at te head, close range is vital for this weapon, to maximize damage, and I feel people often forget that, knowing they can shoot from medium range using fireblast and still do some damage over time. The actual normal bullet damage dealt up close, without the reduce from fireblast, is extremely powerful, and is often underestimated, I went 20-1, 14-0 and 17-0, earlier using sonic blast. I think the best ability for it is cloak, so you can sneak up as close as possible and get into fine aim, before thy see you, then you can kill them pretty quickly, before they even become fully aware you are there. I think the best alternate gun to use with this is the path blaster, it's as if these two weapons were made to be used together, one up close shotgun, one long range pistol, perfect, something for every battle. And the path blaster is useful for getting rid of the over shield from a distance then all that's left is going in and finishing em off with scatter blaster.
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#4numpteezPosted 7/12/2013 11:38:40 AM
I agree, the game is boring if you don't challenge yourself! Earlier I used the range enhancing upgrade for the harvester, and it was great, especially for those scientists who just float at the highest points on each map. But I still need more variety in my weapons though, I need to be more confident with trying new combinations. Sometimes I name my classes to remind me of what they specialise in, like if I had a titan with the techvolt and slime cannon, I call it "infiltrator buster" lol.
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#5DerbittPosted 7/12/2013 11:40:29 AM
This is so true. If you want some challenges in this game nowadays, the only way to do that
is to challenge yourself. If you win (or lose) all the time, the game isn't that fun anymore as it used to be.

Lately I've been using SBR w/ Cyber Optics, SB w/ Sonic Blast and EMP Grenade w/ speed perk (can't remember that perk's name) on my Infiltrator. It's pretty close/medium-range loadout but I found that loadout pretty useful for me.

Also I've been using A4 lately and it seems pretty destructive when you pair it up with CRC or RC.
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#6Polo5lash18Posted 7/12/2013 11:56:00 AM
I think they meant that the game isn't funny anymore because some players just quit too much... And don't say "hurrp durrp lost connection derp" because they jump back in the same match and quit instantly (this can happen over 3 times).

I've use every weapon with every perk.. And still, it's not funny having a 6v6 and half of the players quit... And come back... And quit again.
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#7E5Double0Posted 7/12/2013 12:15:42 PM
I've been saying this for the longest time too, yuggle her. People should get out of their comfort zones and try different things, before they make those claims. Yeah, you might die a lot more than you'd like, if you tried learning to use the NCR, but your overall gameplay skills and variety will have expanded greatly. And you would have something in your arsenal that not many others have.

Also sonic blast is the best way I can counter a fireblaster. Especially when they try to get in my face with it and realize too late that my instant damage output is greater than their damage-over-time effect. Although fireblast is still the best against fleeing scientists and harvester titans. Then again I prefer relying on surgical precision with the Path Blaster, since it requires more skill to use than simple fireblast and forget with the Scatty.
#8Psycho_KoalaPosted 7/12/2013 12:48:35 PM
Ive used n gotten used to all the weapons except Gear shredder (because i tefuse to use it being it seems more like a noob weapon for skilled players to use so i wont practice with it. I also need to practice with the orbital pistol and pbr set cuz i think that is a nasty combination.
Overall i WILL find a way to master the scrapmaker. Ive seen alot of people even lowbies merk entire teams with only scrapmakers. There is definitely something im missing.
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#9Beast_OverlordPosted 7/12/2013 12:54:35 PM
YUGGLE123 posted...
So, I have heard a lot of people lately saying this games boring, always the same, no competition, and it will be, if you make it that way, what I mean is, you have your set classes with your set abilities and your set upgrades. I was getting abut bored, until I did this. Change them, try things you never use, upgrades or guns. Eg. Lately I have been using sonic blast on the scatter blaster, instead of fireblast, ion cartridge on riot cannon, cyber tactical scope on PBR, challenge yourself, use upgrades or weapons you aren't used to, use weapons out never do, this games only boring if you make it, and it will be if you always be the same. I even try going no upgrades, just to change it up a hit and challenge myself. Sometimes you might even find something alot better than what you normally use, I have found this with the scatter blaster. So, I encourage you guys to use different weapons and upgrades, even if you aren't to good with them, heck, even try different armor sets that you have never tried, change up your game, trust me, it makes it a lot less boring. A fun thing I found was to hit the randomize button just before a match, and whatever pops up, just go with it, even
If it does look stupid XD

This game is what you make of it, so don't complain if you make it boring :)


i've used all weapons and upgrades it's still boring i'll use no upgrades and still get bored i've tryed melee only game's with friends car weapon only in game's with friends the same game and same old maps gets boring as of right now i'm just using the op because it the most fun weapon in the game lol
#10YUGGLE123(Topic Creator)Posted 7/12/2013 1:03:20 PM
Just thought I would bring this up, because the game has 48 different weapon upgrades over all classes, and 16 weapons, but it seems for each class, many people just use the same 2 weapons, with the same 2 upgrades. Why not give the others a try. Another thing I tried earlier was the one-way barrier, instead of ensnare, quite useful for conquest, especially in spire an sewers, because you can sneak of down the back when, tye enemy still thinks your behind it XD, then come back round and ambush them. And as nump said, the extra range on the harvester is actually really useful, I tried it a bit. Then, the flak shield,many people use blast proof, or the absorb more damage one, but I seem to be terrible with them both.., am I the only one that seems to be able to only do
Good with the fast foot speed upgrade? I just find it so useful walking faster ... I also tried the faster recharge on cloak, it's pretty handy, because you can keep cloaking and uncloaking in battle to really confuse your opponent.


Tommorow I think I'm gonna try these, See how they are: NAR ion cartridge, may be handy ( ion cartridge on SSR is real good), and the sonic blast on the corrosive slime cannon.

Anyway guys, thanks for your input, and for once a freindly gamefaqs discussion without going off topic XD, see you on the battlefield :D
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