Why does it NEVER work?! Stupid kids hand moves randomly and pressing down on the stupid ass piece of S*** L stick doesn't work 75% of the time so it stabs the freaking legs of a stupid nuke. If for some reason I am lucky enough to get past that, the stupid spinning the f***ing L Stick never works. Spin slow? Fail. Spin fast? Fail. Spin somewhere in the middle? Fail. Have to fail 20 times before it somehow works and then the F***ING game hangs. Stuck there sucking the stupid nuke and nothing happens for over 5 minutes. F***ING quit for tonight. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me."