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B2/W2 RNG changes

#1Shin_Megami_BoyPosted 7/24/2012 1:40:22 AM
Are there any changes to RNGing in these new games, or is it just the same as in B/W?
I haven't played the new games so I have no idea...

Also, did they perhaps remove the wandering NPC next to the Day Care?
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#2TherianFormPosted 7/24/2012 1:41:02 AM
RNG is cheating anyways

wouldnt know tho
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#3banjo kazooiePosted 7/24/2012 1:42:20 AM
Shin_Megami_Boy posted...
Are there any changes to RNGing in these new games, or is it just the same as in B/W?
I haven't played the new games so I have no idea...

Also, did they perhaps remove the wandering NPC next to the Day Care?


Timer0 fluctuates a lot more. RNGing eggs is impossible. That's all I know.
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#4LexifoxPosted 7/24/2012 1:44:04 AM
The game generates a seed when you start your file, then saves it.

After you restart your save (say, after turning it off and picking it back up), it generates a second seed, then uses the first for your first egg. After the egg, it replaces the original seed with the new one, but by this point NCs, frames, etc. have made it way too much of a chore to RNG eggs.
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#5pokemon2pokerPosted 7/24/2012 1:44:10 AM
TherianForm posted...
RNG is cheating anyways

wouldnt know tho


No it's not. If it was cheating you wouldn't be able to fail.
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#6TherianFormPosted 7/24/2012 1:46:17 AM
pokemon2poker posted...
TherianForm posted...
RNG is cheating anyways

wouldnt know tho


No it's not. If it was cheating you wouldn't be able to fail.


YES. It is. Not the data itself, but the abusers of this, make it cheating
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#7Shin_Megami_Boy(Topic Creator)Posted 7/24/2012 1:49:22 AM
Ah I see, so they made RNGing eggs from hard to impossible -_-'

I didn't even use egg RNG much in BW, it was to annoying...

Can we at least RNG wild encounters/stationary/wondercards in the same way as before? (was rly looking forward to a shiny Cresselia)
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#8mtpfreakPosted 7/24/2012 1:50:49 AM
There's apparently something wrong with the egg generation, in that the first egg created after boot will always be generated the same way.
Same everstone decision, same nature, same dreamworld ability decision, same volbeat/illumise decision, etc. PID and IVs are the only thing not set. The result will always be the same depending on what was generated when the gamesave was first created.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4306581&postcount=929
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#9emeraldfox_09Posted 7/24/2012 1:51:38 AM
How do you even RNG stuff in BW anyway?
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#10Shin_Megami_Boy(Topic Creator)Posted 7/24/2012 1:51:55 AM
TherianForm posted...
pokemon2poker posted...
TherianForm posted...
RNG is cheating anyways

wouldnt know tho


No it's not. If it was cheating you wouldn't be able to fail.


YES. It is. Not the data itself, but the abusers of this, make it cheating


No it is not... Do you even know how much time and effort you have to put into RNG for it to work? From my experience ppl that scream at RNG as being cheating are usually the ones that can't do RNG (sour grapes effect)... In a game where the majority of players use Pokesav, AR, Pokecheck and etc I'd say RNG is pretty damn legit...
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