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Level 80 kyogre or level 100 politoed

#111qaqa1(Topic Creator)Posted 8/22/2012 5:24:47 PM
So if the choice was between level 80 groudon and level 100 ninetails what would you pick?
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#12pkmnpkmnPosted 8/22/2012 5:27:54 PM
1qaqa1 posted...
So if the choice was between level 80 groudon and level 100 ninetails what would you pick?


Groudon can use stealth rock, it auto wins.
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#13MileRunPosted 8/22/2012 5:32:32 PM
MrFingers07 posted...
Well, Level 100 Politoed is bulkier, faster and stronger (Yes, Kyogre will have more Special attack but due to the fact that it's on level 80 Kyogre's attacks will do less damage.

The only thing Kyogre has over Politoed in this instance is its movepool. Meh. Give me Politoed.


Kyogre's full-HP Water Spout still outdamages Politoed's Hydro Pump. Kyogre also takes Special hits almost as well as Toed without boosting, and can use Calm Mind to become bulkier.

Kyogre is still better than Politoed 20 levels under.
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#14mudkip72Posted 8/22/2012 5:38:18 PM
1qaqa1 posted...
So if the choice was between level 80 groudon and level 100 ninetails what would you pick?


I'd take Groudon on this one. The defensive support set would probably run well even at L80. Set up Stealth Rocks, spread Paralysis with T-Wave, and manage to threaten the Tyranitars of Sand teams that don't carry Aqua Tail or Ice Beam
#15MrFingers07Posted 8/22/2012 6:13:59 PM
MileRun posted...
MrFingers07 posted...
Well, Level 100 Politoed is bulkier, faster and stronger (Yes, Kyogre will have more Special attack but due to the fact that it's on level 80 Kyogre's attacks will do less damage.

The only thing Kyogre has over Politoed in this instance is its movepool. Meh. Give me Politoed.


Kyogre's full-HP Water Spout still outdamages Politoed's Hydro Pump. Kyogre also takes Special hits almost as well as Toed without boosting, and can use Calm Mind to become bulkier.

Kyogre is still better than Politoed 20 levels under.


I rather use Hydro Pump than Water Spout from something that slow. And a Calm Mind Level 80 Kyogre will not sweep any team, just like if Politoed had Calm Mind. Give me Politoed.
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#16Biggie36Posted 8/22/2012 9:24:26 PM
Well they're gunna b 50 in the end so.....kyogre
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#17DemiseEndPosted 8/22/2012 9:54:35 PM
Here's the difference beetwen Tales and Don and Toed Ogre

Tales is fire type and offensive one at that
Don has bulk on physical side, a ground STAB, SR and wider support movepool

Toed has average stats and broad support movepool
Kyogre has better offensive movepool, but overall worse stats

Basically the case beetwen both is reversed
And so

IMO

Don > Tales
Toed > Ogre
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#18infernoproPosted 8/23/2012 1:53:11 AM
ophanseraph123 posted...
Too bad Kyogre's uber.

Base 150 Sp Atk+Drizzle+STAB+Water Spout=GG Bro

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#19Emperor4DemiGodPosted 8/23/2012 6:01:51 AM
kyogre has thunder wave, CM, and a ton of other stuff. this isnt even a contest.
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#20mudkip72Posted 8/23/2012 6:07:06 AM(edited)
Emperor4DemiGod posted...
kyogre has thunder wave, CM, and a ton of other stuff. this isnt even a contest.

Politoed has Hypnosis (as well as Encore and Perish Song, though those are situational), and at L80 Kyogre doesn't have the proper physical bulk to set up CM.