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3 years ago#11
P0k3m0nWaRR10R8 posted...
Rupin_Salesman posted...
I'd say Gen 4 is now.

Undeserved hate.


Completely deserved hate.


Nope, undeserved. I mean, the Pokemon could be better, but I've been replaying Diamond recently, and Sinnoh is definitely a great region.
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3 years ago#12
Earth_Echidna posted...
P0k3m0nWaRR10R8 posted...
Rupin_Salesman posted...
I'd say Gen 4 is now.

Undeserved hate.


Completely deserved hate.


Nope, undeserved. I mean, the Pokemon could be better, but I've been replaying Diamond recently, and Sinnoh is definitely a great region.


This. I think Gen 4's only weak point was the Pokemon themselves.

Empoleon's my favorite Pokemon of all time, though.
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3 years ago#13
I think the reason 3rd gen was so hated before is because the most recent generation is the one most open to criticism. We don't want to insult our nostalgia, nor the game we're currently playing.

So now that we're in gen V, gen 3 still gets hate, but gen 4 gets random hate too.
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3 years ago#14
Sinnoh was kind of boring really, except fr Platinum whch became actually good but not great. And Gen IV had some cool pokemon. Garchomp,Mamoswine,Infernape,Torterra,Empoleon,Lucario,Gliscor,Weavile,Frosslass,Heatran,Shaymin-S,Giratina,Darkrai,Rotom.They were pretty cool IMO.
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3 years ago#15
DarkBlueAnt posted...
What was wrong with Gen 3? Was it just the least played? That's kind of expected since it came out after the nostalgia wore off, but before online came into play.



Maybe people were pissed because Gen III had no backwards compatibility - you couldn't bring your Pokémon from Gen I & II to Gen III.
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3 years ago#16
Earth_Echidna posted...
P0k3m0nWaRR10R8 posted...
Rupin_Salesman posted...
I'd say Gen 4 is now.

Undeserved hate.


Completely deserved hate.


Nope, undeserved. I mean, the Pokemon could be better, but I've been replaying Diamond recently, and Sinnoh is definitely a great region.


Gen IV felt way too slow to me. The music isn't all that great either in my opinion. I will say that Sinnoh is a good region though.
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3 years ago#17
Verxl posted...
I think the reason 3rd gen was so hated before is because the most recent generation is the one most open to criticism. We don't want to insult our nostalgia, nor the game we're currently playing.

So now that we're in gen V, gen 3 still gets hate, but gen 4 gets random hate too.


This is mostly the case.

Gen 3 love has increased exponentially, while gen 4 hate has risen just as well.

At this point, gen 3 is in a similar position as gen 2 was, while gen 4 is similar to how gen 3 was a few years ago. And of course, gen 5 is the new gen 4.

This trend was pretty apparent a while back. I told them, but noooooooo, gen 3 hate will never end, they said.
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3 years ago#18
Gen III is the black sheep because it's not connected to anything. Even today it doesn't seem to fit.

It lacks the classic 8-bit factor of Gens 1 and 2, yet lacks the heavy advancement of Gens 4 and 5 and even eliminated a cool feature of Gen 2: Time.

Gen 3 added abilities and EV training, but physical/special moves still ran on type, making several pokemon rather lacking (Gyarados, Dragonite), the bag is limited, and the lack of day/night is a vast step back, not to mention, quite a few pokemon types (Bug, Grass) sucked.

What makes Gen 3 cool though is that Hoenn is a neat region (even with all the water), and the Pokemon are pretty nice too.
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3 years ago#19
Gen III was where the series saw its first major engine change. Gens I and II looked and played almost exactly alike - Gen II was simply Gen I with more content - but Gen III started from scratch and built an entirely new game on a new engine, the remnants of which are still used in Gen V.

Gen III got a lot of the 'black sheep' designation from it being so drastically different from the games that had come before (and from it having no compatibility whatsoever with earlier games, segregating its content at a time where Pokemon had been compatible from one generation to the next). Now that there are more generations based off of Gen III than not, and the franchise has kind of rebuilt itself yet again, is it still the odd one out? Maybe. It still was the most drastic generation change, and the only one to cut off compatibility for it.
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3 years ago#20
brawl__08 posted...
sonofcasbah posted...
DarkBlueAnt posted...
What was wrong with Gen 3? Was it just the least played? That's kind of expected since it came out after the nostalgia wore off, but before online came into play.


trumpets


So no reason at all?

Some things never change with you people.


I didn't like the region that much, but the pokemon were cool.
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