and freeze should be infinite if you don't have the moves that can thaw
I agree with this.
I want them to bring back the original Hyper Beam conditions, where if you Ko'd the Pokemon, no rest turn required.
Yeah, they nerfed Hyper Beam into a state where it isn't even usable anymore. Kind of sad. They really should bring it back like in the originals.
Actually, it was quite broken since the foe could wake up the instant you put them to sleep. A fast sleep-inducer could just keep using the sleep move until the Pokemon remained asleep that turn and would be guaranteed to be safe for at least one turn.
I don't need you to explain the mechanics to me, I already did that in the original post.
So... you want to take a turn to wake up and not being able to do anything? "OH HAI ENEMY GUESS WHAT I JUST WOKE UP SO YOU CAN PUT ME TO SLEEP AGAIN BEFORE I CAN DO ANYTHING LOL"
Any true Pokemon fan would agree that the original Sleep mechanics are by far the best we've had yet.
I'd prefer the original god Wrap mechanics.
Yeah, that should come back too. Wrap even sucks for ingame now lol, it and other moves like it were nerfed hard.
Wait how did the original sleep mechanics work? I always thought the resetting thing in Gen 5 was absolutely stupid. Burning sleep turns makes sense but I don't remember anything else about how the original sleep worked.
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