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shiftry on a sun team advice

#1cyanideskyPosted 2/6/2013 8:17:54 AM
hello there.
i tried this topic on W2 boards, but suggested me to try B2 boards.
well, as title says i have some nuzleafs that im training to become shiftrys.
i can breed any nature and almost any egg move.
im planning a sun team for pwt purposes only, no competitive at all.
people say everything work ingame, but i cant beat some championships so thats why im here asking for advice about shiftry and sun teams.
i've read some guides on smogon and alike, but still im looking for some wisdom.
thanks in advance.
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#2CWtennisPosted 2/6/2013 8:28:16 AM
I've always liked the idea of a disposable Shiftry but it's moreso for doubles. Basically lead Ninetales and Shiftry. Fake out/Attack turn one. Turn 2 Leaf Storm, Turn 3 Explosion (with a focus sash to help last 3 turns).

Technically if you set up the sun you could potentially do the same time. Leaf Storm a weak mon then explode on the next mon that comes in.
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#3MugilokoPosted 2/6/2013 8:28:42 AM
I don't know about Shiftry, but you must use a DW Venusaur.
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#4cyanidesky(Topic Creator)Posted 2/6/2013 11:17:36 AM
in stead of leafstorm i was thinking on solar beam, once the sun is up.
so the moveset for disposable shiftry would be:
fake out
explosion
leaf storm / solar beam
dark pulse?
sounds interesting.
i was thinking on him in doubles or triple battles.
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#5Reyman500Posted 2/6/2013 11:25:09 AM
Sucker punch and swords dance is a must
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#6residentbowersPosted 2/6/2013 11:27:33 AM
i used an:
adamant
kings rock
fake out
fling
explosion
seed bomb/razor leaf

razor leaf hits 3 opponents in triples, so if your willing to press your luck with kings rock & crits it can be fun and devastating to rain teams.

other than that pretty straight forward double flinch then explode. if no danger seed bomb. i liked it but its easy to see the flaws.
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#7cyanidesky(Topic Creator)Posted 2/6/2013 11:59:07 AM
residentbowers posted...
i used an:
adamant
kings rock
fake out
fling
explosion
seed bomb/razor leaf

razor leaf hits 3 opponents in triples, so if your willing to press your luck with kings rock & crits it can be fun and devastating to rain teams.

other than that pretty straight forward double flinch then explode. if no danger seed bomb. i liked it but its easy to see the flaws.


why fling? dark stab? wouldnt dark pulse be better for flinching purposes?
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#8cyanidesky(Topic Creator)Posted 2/6/2013 12:01:48 PM
btw, he doesnt learn sucker punch on gen V.
import from which gen IV game?
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#9residentbowersPosted 2/6/2013 12:13:45 PM
cyanidesky posted...
residentbowers posted...
i used an:
adamant
kings rock
fake out
fling
explosion
seed bomb/razor leaf

razor leaf hits 3 opponents in triples, so if your willing to press your luck with kings rock & crits it can be fun and devastating to rain teams.

other than that pretty straight forward double flinch then explode. if no danger seed bomb. i liked it but its easy to see the flaws.


why fling? dark stab? wouldnt dark pulse be better for flinching purposes?


kings rock + fling for second flinch. shiftry cant take a hit so dont expect it to last long. it is just waiting to explode. so you can double flinch whatever is going to target you or cause problems buying time while your teammates clear out some pokemon then explode and hopefully by now you'll only be down 1 while your opponent is down at least 4 if not 5
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#10cyanidesky(Topic Creator)Posted 2/6/2013 12:23:43 PM
residentbowers posted...
cyanidesky posted...
residentbowers posted...
i used an:
adamant
kings rock
fake out
fling
explosion
seed bomb/razor leaf

razor leaf hits 3 opponents in triples, so if your willing to press your luck with kings rock & crits it can be fun and devastating to rain teams.

other than that pretty straight forward double flinch then explode. if no danger seed bomb. i liked it but its easy to see the flaws.


why fling? dark stab? wouldnt dark pulse be better for flinching purposes?


kings rock + fling for second flinch. shiftry cant take a hit so dont expect it to last long. it is just waiting to explode. so you can double flinch whatever is going to target you or cause problems buying time while your teammates clear out some pokemon then explode and hopefully by now you'll only be down 1 while your opponent is down at least 4 if not 5


awesome strategy!
by any chance the kings rock returns to shiftry after fling?
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