Truth hurts,

#1EpicKingdom_Posted 3/14/2013 1:55:22 AM(edited)
http://www.reddit.com/r/SimCity/comments/1a5pof/did_ea_lie_about_theoretical_population_sizes/

http://www.reddit.com/r/SimCity/comments/1a58uz/does_simcity_lack_longterm_objectives_and_a_large/

http://www.reddit.com/r/SimCity/comments/19yv00/is_simcity_glassbox_engine_all_bells_and_whistles/

http://www.reddit.com/r/SimCity/comments/1a2wz3/normal_traffic_mass_transit_even_utility/

http://www.reddit.com/r/SimCity/comments/19uev9/does_this_game_even_have_ai/

http://www.reddit.com/r/SimCity/comments/19y8e5/simcity_has_extremely_simple_shortest_route/

http://www.reddit.com/r/SimCity/comments/1a7iqq/apparently_commercial_and_industrial_zones_are/





http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g418BSF6XBQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zcEaHT9mt-Y

Also the game lies about your city population size:
the code for population.

Code:
simcity.GetFudgedPopulation = function (a) {
a = "undefined" !== typeof a ? a : simcity.gGlobalUIHandler.mLastPopulation;
if (500 >= a)
return a;
if (40845 < a)
return Math.floor(8.25 * a);
a = Math.pow(a - 500, 1.2) + 500;
return Math.floor(a)
};


SO GLAD I NEVER PURCHASED! :D

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#2ShaidonPosted 3/14/2013 2:11:13 AM
Would developers and producers truly try to make a quality game, or go for the looks, as the current trend?
I dunno. With these amount of costumers that keep saying that are fine with the way the things are going.

And I'm fine with the optimistic choice of doing nothing about it, and enjoy the moment. The problem is that most of them make sure to show their effort to keep the things this way. When ever someone criticize, these conformists attacks the ones that are trying to do something about it, call them names. Funny, cause most of the times these names fits them properly.

If you are really enjoying this game the way it is, then you have no reason to "defend" it against the critics. You do that, or because you are insecure, or because you just want a reason to argue with someone.
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#3SynapsisPosted 3/14/2013 2:18:22 AM
I find truth to be rather pleasurable. I rub it into my deepest crevices.
#4Lunacy182Posted 3/14/2013 4:15:44 AM
Thanks for the links TC. I like seeing official maxis employees responding to peoples concerns. I feel bad for those guys. Like they got in with the wrong crowd (EA). Hopefully they can get this game back to where it should be.
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#5clowningPosted 3/14/2013 7:00:28 AM
There are three things that happen over and over on boards like this one that harm the gaming industry in small but additive ways.

1) Apologists These guys spend time telling us how something bad is actually good. It makes no sense for anyone who cares about the industry to do this. All they are doing is encouraging an ever increasing drop in quality of games. These people need to either go away or turn on their brains if they really care about games. As it is, they just encourage inferior products.

2) Scapegoating. This game was designed by Maxis, not EA. Maxis chose the online only mode, they chose the garbage engine, they coded the whole thing, they lied about agents, etc. It was Maxis, not EA, but everyone everywhere blames EA. While I disagree with much of EA's game philosophy, it was Maxis that designed and built this insult of a SC (an insult to its predecessors). By casting blame on EA and not on Maxis where it belongs, people give Maxis a pass. The guys at Maxis should be the ones getting harangued for this mess, not EA.

3) Paranoid hyperbole. "Origin steals your information!" That sort of thing. Ridiculous over the top nonsense fills the internet, and it's all garbage. False information does not help the industry, and developers and publishers alike have to deal with it. They have to spend money marketing and defending against nonsense, which cuts into game budgets. They design games and other components to avoid getting targeted by internet loons which can reduce the quality or efficacy of whatever it is they are trying to do, and so on.

We need more level headed people running these conversations, and fewer insecure, paranoid, over-emotional children ranting and spewing ignorance all over the digital landscape. Unfortunately, that will never happen, so we will continue to see developers and publishers reacting to this nonsense rather than working on great products for the sake of the product itself.
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#6Zmapper33Posted 3/14/2013 7:07:05 AM
If you think EA doesn't have a very big hand in development decisions then you'd be wrong. The game is only possible because they give the money to make it, and they want to make sure that money is going to be well spent.
#7clowningPosted 3/14/2013 7:10:20 AM
Zmapper33 posted...
If you think EA doesn't have a very big hand in development decisions then you'd be wrong. The game is only possible because they give the money to make it, and they want to make sure that money is going to be well spent.


Please provide facts, not speculation. Without facts, you have only ignorance. It is foolish to use ignorance as the basis for your judgements. I have some facts. We all do. It is a fact that Maxis designed this game, that they intended it to be online only, that they claimed the game can only run on their servers. They made these claims themselves. One such video was actually linked on this very board. These are facts. All you have is...ignorance.
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#8ShaidonPosted 3/14/2013 7:20:35 AM
What are the facts that Maxis did everything by themselves, and EA have nothing with it?
From what I know Maxis is just a label now, everything is EA. I don't think we can separate them anymore.
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#9TreasureHunterGPosted 3/14/2013 7:28:55 AM
I think making your boss look bad is the worst thing someone can do in a corporate setting. So, I consider that placing the blame on EA is a very effective way to voice concerns about this game. And it's not incorrect by any means, since they do own Maxis, and ultimately hold all responsibility for what they do.

If they didn't agree with the direction Maxis was taking with this game, they could have put someone else in charge of that company. But they didn't.
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#10I Like ToastPosted 3/14/2013 7:31:37 AM
From: clowning | Posted: 3/14/2013 10:10:20 AM | #007
Please provide facts, not speculation

You first.
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