Has the market actually died?

#11swirlz5Posted 2/6/2013 6:00:50 AM
The problem is that cards have no to little value events and holywar prizes arent worth it to get there anymore
#12The DevourerPosted 2/6/2013 7:15:25 AM
You know holy wars aren't the only way to get stuff right? And tc was also talking about how the only way to get decent hp is to spend a ton of money. But how is anything like that a problem when the prices are pretty proportional?

You don't need tons of money. You don't need to rank super high on holy wars (and if you're doing that you're doing it wrong if you want your hp back let alone profit). How does an hr or any card hold any more value if everything including them costs like 3-10x what they do now?
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#13Elkfryn DemtorPosted 2/6/2013 7:27:28 AM
They're complaining because they used to get their HP back in rewards. Now it's no longer profitable and guess what, we caused it. Cygames didn't tell us to use more HP to do well in the events, that's all us. We're using more and more HP to rank high in these events. Last HW I used over 200 HP and I ranked around 11k individual. Compare that to 4-5 HWs ago I'd probably rank around 5k to 6k, if not higher. It's not about profit at the high ranks, it's about glory and everyone is getting caught up in it unless they sit out that HW.
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#14The DevourerPosted 2/6/2013 7:47:06 AM
That's the thing that makes it silly to complain about not getting it back in rewards anyway. Only reason that's true is cus everyone keeps using more and more to compete. If you're competing that seriously for profits then you're doing it wrong. Top ranking for rewards is fine but for profit is silly. Especially with people burning son much to get there.

There shouldn't be any complaints outside of hw anyway about hp since prices are pretty proportional. And hw is a player controlled symptom. And there's more competition for the top apparently. There's nothing wrong with sitting out or sitting back yet for some reason you should be able to go all out all the time and be able to get on top AND profit? Hardly.
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#15pattapitPosted 2/6/2013 8:39:03 AM
I Understand (and agree with) the 1:10 vs 10:100.

However, what decent SR costs 10?!

Thor is 25-35, Gilg is 20, Haniel is 75, etc

On the flip side for the neighsayers back in the day SR wasn't 100 do don't even go there! Everything has stayed proportional I believe is the message that is trying to be portrayed here
#16The DevourerPosted 2/6/2013 4:17:54 PM
pattapit posted...
I Understand (and agree with) the 1:10 vs 10:100.

However, what decent SR costs 10?!

Thor is 25-35, Gilg is 20, Haniel is 75, etc

On the flip side for the neighsayers back in the day SR wasn't 100 do don't even go there! Everything has stayed proportional I believe is the message that is trying to be portrayed here


For the most part everything is proportional which is basically what I was getting at to begin with. For the most part cards have dropped in value by about 3x. Some have dropped a little more, some have dropped a little less. But it is actually easier to buy more because we get free HP and stuff essentially. If you don't go spending a **** ton of it then you make more than you spend and can buy more cards. Where before you might have needed 100 HP to buy a decent SR now you need about 30 or so for a decent one. About 50 for the better ones such as Jormungand and all. Say you just get 10 from the event...well that is a hell of a lot more buying power than getting 10 HP and needing 100+ to buy a card.

The SR cards I've seen that have dropped are the crap ones that are close to HR performance. Temptress Vampire I believe is about 10 HP right now... for a whopping 18k defense? And a hit to man attack I believe it is? You can get close to that out of an HR... with a more relevant skill such as boost to defense. And at the very least, you can get 17k out of a card like Chimaera which makes it a minimal upgrade.
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#17fandango66Posted 2/8/2013 4:06:11 AM
Just sold an unevolved max helvera for 47hp. Better than a kick in the balls no?
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