Carley *Spoiler*

#31CarpetfluffPosted 8/30/2012 12:33:01 PM
zinsindetta posted...
Carpetfluff posted...
zinsindetta posted...
Yeah this "You decide how it plays out" stuff they were selling us is crap. And I know real life sucks and unfair blah blah but this is still a game. Kinda do not like the point of having a team and not being able to save the team based on my actions. The Rachni queen from Mass Effect 3 thinks your decisions do not really matter after all in this game.

Carley was awesome. Best survivor in the group and gone. Sucks.


That is real life though; people don't get to stop bad things happening to people just because they like them.


However your actions in life change the future. Butterfly Effect and such, all the actions Lee performs up to this point and no combination changes the small action. I call BS.


Yeah, but he can't be in control of Lily's mindset. That's the point.
#32zinsindettaPosted 8/30/2012 12:36:07 PM
Sure he could, what was the point of siding with Lilly all the time? Helping her when she needed it so she can trust what you say? Giving her food in episode 2 and such. Come on.
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#33CarpetfluffPosted 8/30/2012 12:38:20 PM
zinsindetta posted...
Sure he could, what was the point of siding with Lilly all the time? Helping her when she needed it so she can trust what you say? Giving her food in episode 2 and such. Come on.


You're going at it from game logic; not people logic. If she's losing it and feeling the world's against her and she's being betrayed, no amount of crackers you gave her before is going to change that. Plus this game is never, ever that black and white when it comes to choices.
#34zinsindettaPosted 8/30/2012 12:41:04 PM
I think your wrong but I do not think I can change your mind.
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#35CarpetfluffPosted 8/30/2012 12:42:35 PM(edited)
zinsindetta posted...
I think your wrong but I do not think I can change your mind.


Hehe. See? Although if you'd given me some crackers last week...then maybe...
#36zinsindettaPosted 8/30/2012 12:46:27 PM
Carpetfluff posted...
zinsindetta posted...
I think your wrong but I do not think I can change your mind.


Hehe. See? Although if you'd given me some crackers last week...then maybe...


Well if we became friends a week ago then maybe we played Xbox Live all night last night and you are sleeping at this time making it impossible for you to be replying at the moment. Little action like that could change everything.
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#37megaddtdPosted 8/30/2012 12:55:55 PM(edited)
zinsindetta posted...
Carpetfluff posted...
zinsindetta posted...
Yeah this "You decide how it plays out" stuff they were selling us is crap. And I know real life sucks and unfair blah blah but this is still a game. Kinda do not like the point of having a team and not being able to save the team based on my actions. The Rachni queen from Mass Effect 3 thinks your decisions do not really matter after all in this game.

Carley was awesome. Best survivor in the group and gone. Sucks.


That is real life though; people don't get to stop bad things happening to people just because they like them.


However your actions in life change the future. Butterfly Effect and such, all the actions Lee performs up to this point and no combination changes the small action. I call BS.


Think about it this way, did it really matter whether we tried to help or kill Larry when, in the end, Lily saw her father's head literally get flattened by a salt lick?

But you're right in that what we do doesn't fundamentally change the game. I can't think of any game that has that true "choose your own adventure" style, mainly because it's a LOT of work and assets needed. If the games truly branched at decisions, then the devs would essentially be creating multiple versions of their games.

Example: In episode 1, if you don't choose Duck at Hershel's farm, then they could have had Kenny leave Lee behind. Right there, at that moment, an ENTIRELY different game is born. We would probably never meet the rest of the group, never have wound up at the St. John's Dairy Farm, and never would have found the train to Savannah. We'd never know Larry, Carly or Doug, Lily, Ben, the St. Johns, &tc...

What TellTale has done, in my opinion, has brilliantly let you guide your version of Lee through the story, with significant impacts on how the other characters perceive and/or react to you and your decisions. Yes, it's on a scripted path, but just from reading these message boards, people who made different decisions have had different experiences, and because of their choices may have seen a different side to a character than you and I.
#38JohnnyMarconePosted 8/30/2012 1:41:33 PM
I just want to save her, why can't I save her? ;_;
#39Lord_TherussPosted 8/30/2012 2:05:02 PM
Look at all these white knights that saved the woman. I saved Doug, and I was shocked when he was shot. Doug was kinda like Dale from the tv show. He seemed to care about the group as a whole and supported everyone and didn't like to see them fight. He was the most likable and consistent person in the group who always wanted to be helpful. Then he jumps in front of Ben and takes a bullet in the back.

RIP Doug. Us 25% of the player base will miss you, buddy!
#40DarquePosted 8/30/2012 7:00:47 PM
JohnnyMarcone posted...
I just want to save her, why can't I save her? ;_;


Because we needed a reason to hate lily and send her on her way.....

Best guess I have.

Also, thumbs up on your user name. =)
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