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So, in terms of Athleticism, is LeBron>MJ?

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Draje
Posted 1/9/2013 12:06:52 AM
Lebron's more athletic but Jordan was a freak of nature too. His hops, body control, speed, huge hands, and quickness was absurd.

LeBron us just some kind of athletic anomaly.
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CMJoker
Posted 1/9/2013 7:55:12 AM
LakerFanBoy posted...

A better argument would be if Magic and Prime Laker Shaq was the most athletic player in history.


Magic wasn't athletic, he just had size and a high basketball IQ. He wasn't really super fast and didn't out jump anyone, and he doesn't have too many replays where you say "how is that humanly possible". He has fancy passes and great court vision, but those are a product of learning the game and not really athleticism.

I consider Orlando Shaq to be more athletic than Laker Shaq. Orlando Shaq was quick (not fast), Strong, and had decent ups for a big man. Laker Shaq was a monster because of his strength only.

As far as other Athletes, I think KG is underrated from that standpoint because he had a more well rounded game offensively. But KG could play defense almost anyone, was as quick (not fast) as some guards and had a good vertical. If all else was the same and he was just 6'8, he'd could have easily been an SF, but his size made him a PF. In fact, in All star Games during the early 2000s, he played SF because Duncan was the other starter.

Side Note: Early 2000s West ASG Starting 5 was Kidd, Kobe, Garnett, Duncan, Shaq. Got to be one of the greatest ASG Starting 5 of all time.
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Mezmorizor
Posted 1/9/2013 8:17:16 AM
Lebron has a vertical of 44"

Jordan had a vertical of 48"

Jordan easily. Athleticism was Jordan's game.
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SK8T3R215
Posted 1/9/2013 8:36:53 AM
Mezmorizor posted...
Lebron has a vertical of 44"

Jordan had a vertical of 48"

Jordan easily. Athleticism was Jordan's game.


What about the fact LeBron is taller and weighs more?
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Draje
Posted 1/9/2013 10:05:31 AM
Mezmorizor posted...
Lebron has a vertical of 44"

Jordan had a vertical of 48"

Jordan easily. Athleticism was Jordan's game.


You realize LeBron has probably 30 lbs on Jordan while being arguably as fast, much stronger, and has around the same jumping ability? The mere fact that LeBron is carrying a bunch of extra muscle and is only 2 inches lower ob the vertical than LeBron is absurd.

Jordan is more skilled and made better use of his athlecitsm in conjunction with his skill but he's not as athletic as LeBron.
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Mezmorizor
Posted 1/9/2013 10:41:29 AM
From: Draje | #015
Mezmorizor posted...
Lebron has a vertical of 44"

Jordan had a vertical of 48"

Jordan easily. Athleticism was Jordan's game.


You realize LeBron has probably 30 lbs on Jordan while being arguably as fast, much stronger, and has around the same jumping ability? The mere fact that LeBron is carrying a bunch of extra muscle and is only 2 inches lower ob the vertical than LeBron is absurd.

Jordan is more skilled and made better use of his athlecitsm in conjunction with his skill but he's not as athletic as LeBron.

He also has 2" on Jordan, so 30 pounds really isn't very much. So let's review who wins what.

Lebron:
Strength

Jordan:
Vertical(by a mile, 4" is not "around the same", that's like saying a 4.5 is about as fast as a 4.3), speed, and quickness

Yeah, I'll take Jordan any day of the week.
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Draje
Posted 1/9/2013 11:05:45 AM
Did you say 30 lbs isn't that much?

LeBron is carrying around 30 lbs, is considerably stronger, just as fast (especially baseline to baseline), and has length to go with it.

The difference in their strength is much bigger than the difference in their speed and quickness. LeBron is still leaping clean over people for dunks, able to chase down blocks from the other side of the court, is quick enough to stay in front if the likes of Derek Rose, and strong enough that he's guarded the likes of Dwight Howard and Marcus Camby.

That is an absurd combination of size, strength, and speed.
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gamerzor
Posted 1/9/2013 11:53:22 AM
Yes, no question. There will never be another physical specimen of LeBron's caliber. When he came into the league he was like 6'8 250. and now he's like 6'8 270 and can still jump as high as he can. Some people say he is losing athleticism which makes me laugh. you tend to not jump as high as before if you put on 20 lbs of muscle. he has like the most complete body for a basketball player and able to play all or any positions.
smelly_boob
Posted 1/9/2013 11:55:16 AM
nighthawk247 posted...
Had this argument with some of my friends today, and even though I have never seen MJ play, I have seen LeBron play, and LeBron is a freak of nature, and an amazing athlete. What do you guys think?


you are correct lebron is a freak of nature.... given his size, no other player ever has been as athletic at that size...
ZechsPeacecraft
Posted 1/9/2013 2:12:51 PM
The only person in history who I think could compete with LBJ is Bo Jackson, that guy was ridiculous.
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