I dont hate the new Dante and all but....

#21gameghy555Posted 10/9/2012 10:07:08 PM
majora999 posted...
...Nope. Even looking at them side-by-side, I still prefer the new one.

They're both pretty boy douchebags, but atleast this one isn't Generic Anime Cliche #108575693.


This. A million times. I like anime, but classic Dante is such a animuuuu stereotype.
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#22stevenbobPosted 10/9/2012 10:15:53 PM
NewMoonShadow posted...
Gokaia posted...
majora999 posted...
...Nope. Even looking at them side-by-side, I still prefer the new one.

They're both pretty boy douchebags, but atleast this one isn't Generic Anime Cliche #108575693.


Dante came around before white-haired anime protagonists were really popular. Dante probably started that trend, as a matter of fact.


If you think having white hair is the only thing that makes Dante cliche you're out of touch with... everything.

Dante was designed from the ground up to be the then-current epitome of "cool" in Japan. No way around it, he was designed as a cool-cliche, like a Japanese Fonzy.

Not saying New Dante isn't designed as an American cliche of cool, of course. Really this is a "pick your poison" kind of thing, because neither is particularly more original than the other.

Also I find it funny it seems to be trying to call New Dante the "pretty boy" while one of the Old Dantes is the one with his shirt off showing off his baby-smooth chest.


the point in kamiya the creators was trying to make a cliche character on purpose and based him on cobra so yeah just giving you more info to defend your point
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#23geneocidePosted 10/9/2012 10:18:02 PM
gameghy555 posted...
majora999 posted...
...Nope. Even looking at them side-by-side, I still prefer the new one.

They're both pretty boy douchebags, but atleast this one isn't Generic Anime Cliche #108575693.


This. A million times. I like anime, but classic Dante is such a animuuuu stereotype.


How is he an anime stereo type....
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#24J-Don-BonnePosted 10/10/2012 7:57:59 AM
sworder posted...
Game_ROB posted...
I'm quite sure the likes of Allen Walker was made first... but I'd have to check the serialization date in Jump Ultimate Stars first.


2004 according to wikipedia, 3 years after DMC


Ah.
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#25gameghy555Posted 10/10/2012 8:08:38 AM
geneocide posted...
gameghy555 posted...
majora999 posted...
...Nope. Even looking at them side-by-side, I still prefer the new one.

They're both pretty boy douchebags, but atleast this one isn't Generic Anime Cliche #108575693.


This. A million times. I like anime, but classic Dante is such a animuuuu stereotype.


How is he an anime stereo type....


Lulzcat.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xJF6Gafr4w8/TmMT9xzBn3I/AAAAAAAAAAY/4t1bQ7JlXA4/s1600/221216_120084938074189_100002180501050_159269_3535422_o.jpg

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/6800000/-Anime-Guy-anime-guys-6863170-592-456.jpg

http://www.baka-raptor.com/DevilMayCry/strawberry.jpg

He has the hair, the eyes, the facial structure, the cloths, the style, the expressions, etc. It's screaming animuuuuuuuuuuu.
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#26zxelmanPosted 10/10/2012 8:10:46 AM
Allen Walker wasn't a d-bag though, and still got some attention. Just not as much, which kind of proves some statements about 'Merica.
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#27QuadManXPosted 10/10/2012 8:20:50 AM
I'm just going to say a few things about original Dante's design, which I never seem to see on these boards... (Note: These are just generalizations)

1.) White hair, in Japan, signifies something supernatural/other worldly, such as gods/demons and hybrids.

2.) The color red is the color of heroic persons, in Japan, whereas the color blue is the color of more villainous persons. (which seems to be the opposite where I am, the US, which has blue for the goodguys and red for the bad, more often than not)

With those things in mind, original Dante isn't so much an "anime cliche" as he is a cultural representation... with some anime tropes attached, of course.
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#28sworderPosted 10/10/2012 8:21:54 AM
gameghy555 posted...
Lulzcat.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xJF6Gafr4w8/TmMT9xzBn3I/AAAAAAAAAAY/4t1bQ7JlXA4/s1600/221216_120084938074189_100002180501050_159269_3535422_o.jpg

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/6800000/-Anime-Guy-anime-guys-6863170-592-456.jpg

http://www.baka-raptor.com/DevilMayCry/strawberry.jpg

He has the hair, the eyes, the facial structure, the cloths, the style, the expressions, etc. It's screaming animuuuuuuuuuuu.


So let me get this straight. You take the anime version of Dante and say he looks like, well, an anime? Goddamn that s*** is unprecedented!

It's an anime, what else is he supposed to look like? Take the game version of him and his eyes and face look like any other normal video game character.

As for long coats and guns, if those are anime stereotypes then I suppose new Dante is also an anime stereotype, even tho he's not. I think you guys just don't have a very strong point.

The only reasonable thing you can say is that his clothes have a bunch of stuff on them to make them look cool, but that's a Japanese thing. It's not specific to anime. Happens in video games too.
#29TaizukuPosted 10/10/2012 8:26:21 AM
Half demon...fights his brother...saves girls...white hair...red suit...uses huge swords....why does this sound familiar?

Oh yeah. :| Inuyasha.

http://c.wrzuta.pl/wi8322/520596ef001b96fc49294308/sesshomaru_and_inuyasha
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#30Goul111Posted 10/10/2012 8:26:37 AM
The art work reminds me of an image of cosplayers, all as different incarnations of dante, like 8 over them where posing in a picture aiming their guns and the new design. They new one was the only one that was really close to source material.

But yeah, this is still just a case of "They changed it, now we don't like it" Doesn't matter if its good or not.
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