When can we expect to see a true tier list?

#11Riku___Posted 11/29/2012 9:00:09 PM(edited)
Kindertotenwald posted...
PyroSpark posted...
NDgamer1122 posted...
From: Kindertotenwald | #004
Well I think its safe to say Raiden, Sackboy, Dante, Sly and Kratos are top tier.

I don't think anyone will disagree.


Dante? Yeah no.


Again nice points to back your arguement up.


Dante's not top tier worthy. He seems like a more technical Raiden with more risk and less reward. Maybe if he could use his cancels on block. Also, his square attacks are very unsafe.
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#12kratosandzelosPosted 11/29/2012 9:02:20 PM
Id predict anywhere from 6 months to a year for a first official tier list.
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#13blaze19_0XPosted 11/29/2012 9:03:46 PM
kratosandzelos posted...
Id predict anywhere from 6 months to a year for a first official tier list.


This game will never get an "official tier list" and even if it did it would have to be changed overtime.

Tier lists are not absolute. They are what the community generally agrees to based off frame data, tourny results and high level input.
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#14kratosandzelosPosted 11/29/2012 9:05:21 PM
I meant an official community tier list, sorry, I didn't think it neccessary to spell that out.
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#15Lexmark1989Posted 11/29/2012 9:14:39 PM
blaze19_0X posted...
kratosandzelos posted...
Id predict anywhere from 6 months to a year for a first official tier list.


This game will never get an "official tier list" and even if it did it would have to be changed overtime.

Tier lists are not absolute. They are what the community generally agrees to based off frame data, tourny results and high level input.


Some tier list are absolute enough that you can determine who is at least top tier without question. For example yun in ssf4AE he was without question the best character in the game. Saying they aren't absolute doesn't destroy the credibility of them, after about 2 years the characters in the top tier position rarely changes, more character may be added to the top but that's about it.
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#16blaze19_0XPosted 11/29/2012 9:18:29 PM
Lexmark1989 posted...
blaze19_0X posted...
kratosandzelos posted...
Id predict anywhere from 6 months to a year for a first official tier list.


This game will never get an "official tier list" and even if it did it would have to be changed overtime.

Tier lists are not absolute. They are what the community generally agrees to based off frame data, tourny results and high level input.


Some tier list are absolute enough that you can determine who is at least top tier without question. For example yun in ssf4AE he was without question the best character in the game. Saying they aren't absolute doesn't destroy the credibility of them, after about 2 years the characters in the top tier position rarely changes, more character may be added to the top but that's about it.


Yes but Yun was nerfed by Capcom. So even in this case it's no longer accurate to call him the best character.

I do agree some characters like Metaknight since the first month of brawl have been known to be the best but that's because his frame data compared to everyone else was and is insane. However, other characters have signficantly moved around spots.
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#17kratosandzelosPosted 11/29/2012 9:21:43 PM
What blaze is saying, beside exposing my word choice, is simply that no tier list will ever exist that's 100% absolute. Still, its realistic to have community lists made that are official for that community. Are they 100% right, even at the time of creation? No, but that's just how it works, you'll never have a list everyone 100% agrees on, and new tech and tournament data can skew them quite a bit for the next version of it
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#18giantqtipzPosted 11/29/2012 9:22:28 PM
As long as sir dan stays at the bottom I'm good.