Evil Cole... THAT is where I draw the line.

#1CrabhammarPosted 1/17/2013 9:03:48 PM
*draws line*

Anywho, I should probably explain wtf I'm talking about. Evil Cole can do you dirty with a Level 1 off a hard knockdown. Simply pop an Oil Spike over the knockdowned opponent with a Giga Punch charge. The punch catches rolls in either direction; if the victim gets up without blocking, they will get snagged by the Oil Spike. If they do block, E. Coli will grab them into Level 1. And that's just plain unfair, especially for Good Cole. Good Cole's whole shtick is that the tether can give him an AP burst or a hitconfirm into Level 1. Giving Evil Cole the ability to HKD off the tether is a bit unfair; it's literally all Good Cole has to his name.

I don't even think I have a point. That ish is just cheap ;>_>
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#2blaze19_0XPosted 1/17/2013 9:05:00 PM
Wait a minute.

What if they jump on wakeup? Does this cover this option as well?

Jumping on wakeup is quite fast in this game, it comes out like instantly, not sure the oil would get them.
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#3PhoenixRushPosted 1/17/2013 9:05:58 PM
I have a harder time with counter/teleport spamming Slys. Though E.Coles are indeed a thorn in the side with the infallible if it hits sucker punch. In fact, can it even be countered?
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#4Crabhammar(Topic Creator)Posted 1/17/2013 9:07:07 PM
It'll still get them.
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#5blaze19_0XPosted 1/17/2013 9:08:13 PM
Crabhammar posted...
It'll still get them.


Are you sure? Have you tested what I said?

Keep in mind grabs aren't fast enough to catch jumps on wakeup afaik.
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#6XadrinPosted 1/17/2013 9:08:15 PM
Wait, are you just now learning about this? Or did you just decide to wait on creating the topic?

PhoenixRush posted...
I have a harder time with counter/teleport spamming Slys. Though E.Coles are indeed a thorn in the side with the infallible if it hits sucker punch. In fact, can it even be countered?


It can be countered, but the Giga Punch's super armor is still in effect.
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#7Crabhammar(Topic Creator)Posted 1/17/2013 9:09:51 PM
blaze19_0X posted...
Crabhammar posted...
It'll still get them.


Are you sure? Have you tested what I said?

Keep in mind grabs aren't fast enough to catch jumps on wakeup afaik.


Just did in Practice Mode. You can't jump before the Oil Spike.

Xadrin posted...
Wait, are you just now learning about this? Or did you just decide to wait on creating the topic?


I actually knew about this for a little bit. I never got around to making the topic.
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#8blaze19_0XPosted 1/17/2013 9:12:44 PM(edited)
And actually there are two more possible problems with this setup.

1. You have to plant the oil spike immediately after the knockdown, exactly on top of them. In a lot of hard knockdown cases you won't have enough time, they'll be able to roll or something before then.

2. If they stall and stay down (you do this by holding L1), I believe the oil spike won't last long enough for this setup.

Oh and obviously you'll need a punch charged and ready.
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#9Muscle_ManPosted 1/17/2013 9:11:09 PM
You know who else can do you dirty after a hard knockdown?

MAH MOM!!!! Woooooo!!
*takes off his shirt and twirls it around*
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#10PhoenixRushPosted 1/17/2013 9:11:44 PM
Muscle_Man posted...
You know who else can do you dirty after a hard knockdown?

MAH MOM!!!! Woooooo!!
*takes off his shirt and twirls it around*

What is with you?
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