The "nerf" has not prevented ANY of the characters from still being OP.

#1-crashbfanPosted 1/26/2013 7:11:43 PM
They're exactly the freakin same... the only difference is they can't do infinites which I only saw in 1v1s anyway.
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#2Charizard18Posted 1/26/2013 7:23:19 PM
I actually agree...Kratos feels like he didn't get nerfed at all. Sure he has more endlag on forward square, but just yesterday I still managed to be grabbed from underneath a platform with it. None of the nerfed characters are really "OP", but they're still pretty good. I'm still seeing Kratos spamming forward square and it working and the ones that don't spam neutral square. I only ever saw Drake's loop once so Drake is still Drake to me and i only occasionally saw Raiden's so he still feels unchanged.

I know these were well deserved nerfs, but I still feel like there's room for more to be done. Not that I want anything more to happen, I don't.

Just bugs me that SB treats Kratos like their baby >_>
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#3xdifferentxPosted 1/26/2013 7:25:22 PM
kratos can't grab you when you are directly above him now....
#4PrismsbladePosted 1/26/2013 7:29:05 PM
-crashbfan posted...
They're exactly the freakin same... the only difference is they can't do infinites which I only saw in 1v1s anyway.


That was all they needed, and without those are just really good characters, though kratos squares are still a bit annoying,
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#5SelitePosted 1/26/2013 8:01:51 PM
The Sackboy one worked.
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#6ParanoidplayerPosted 1/26/2013 8:25:17 PM
Raiden is no longer OP. just block him. He isn't even s tier anymore
#7Random-KatePosted 1/26/2013 9:25:01 PM
Raiden players actually have to learn confirms now. Although, mostly predictable.
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#8-crashbfan(Topic Creator)Posted 1/26/2013 9:26:12 PM
Random-Kate posted...
Raiden players actually have to learn confirms now. Although, mostly predictable.


Forward Square, not hard to do
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#9MajesticFerretPosted 1/26/2013 9:56:27 PM
Raiden is no longer OP. just block him. He isn't even s tier anymore

Raiden's not OP, but he's still top tier. Jump down triangle is still extremely safe/hard to punish, has godly range, and connects to a super/155 AP combo that's pathetically easy to perform. I don't know why people don't use it more online, but it's still one of the cheapest tools in the game and was easily Raiden's most broken tool aside from the ability to super/combo from a grab.

Honestly, the loop wasn't as broken as the fact that Raiden could combo/super from a grab, which he can set up from a dash from across the screen. The grab still more or less connects into the dash, it just no longer guaruntees a super/combo, but he can still easily hit you with a forward square when you try to roll away from him if he times it right.


Basically, Raiden just isn't noob cakes anymore. A Raiden worth his salt should still be as abusive as before. This is one of the few nerfs SB did a good job with.
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#10atopthemountainPosted 1/26/2013 10:47:03 PM
Paranoidplayer posted...
Raiden is no longer OP. just block him. He isn't even s tier anymore


so he can grab you?
do you even play?



kratos isnt too bad....i fought this black belt raiden 2v2 who is infamous for loop throwing and we were now on equal footing....drakes gun loop doesnt mean jack to me...(datbarrel tho)

did they nerf counterman yet?
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