my 2v2 tier list

#1dabuzPosted 1/30/2013 9:46:07 PM
This tier list is assuming ranked rules (3 min), it is based off my experiences, opinions of high level players, and results. Order matters. I'm going to focus what each character brings to the team since I've covered individual strengths in my 1v1 tier list. I believe most of the cast is good in dubz with the right partner.


Top tier: These characters all share the trait of being good with just about any partner.

Sly: A character that can play hit and run, covering his partner, poking, and evading a lot. He can play pressure or runaway depending on the team. Level 1 is hard to avoid and easy to be set up by partner. His only flaw is not being combo friendly for his partner.

Fat Princess: Controls a huge space wherever she is, takes advantage of the chaos with lots of easy to land level 1 confirms, locks down multiple opponents with ease, hard to hit and combo. Only flaw is no mobility.

Kratos: Best crowd control and AP building in 2v2 by far. He can play aggressor, defensive, support, ANYTHING and do it while easily building up a level 3 per game. When this character is on the screen, he can't be left alone.

Drake: The ultimate support and defensive character, with barrel and cover fire, he locks down opponents with ease and gets his partner out of a jam, his supers are all easily setup by his partner or thrown out willy nilly.

Raiden: Even with the nerf, this character is a huge asset. He has lots of mobility and safety which allows him take advantage of any openings while not putting himself at much risk. He can approach easily and has partner friendly combos. His level 1 and 2 take advantage of the chaos caused by 2v2.


High Tier:

Evil Cole: A great defensive character and great at pressuring with his partner, his mobility, projectiles, and variety of level 1 confirms let him keep a distance and harass. His supers are very easy for partners to combo into and he extends combos well. Problem is he relies on a partner who either camps with him or pressures hard because he can be overwhelmed or punished for using his level 1 otherwise.

Ratchet: Amazing at camping and support, outcamps every other character and sniper lets him interrupt opponents very easily, sniper also sets up partner level 1s. Flaw being he can't build AP or kill that well, so he relies on a partner who can land lots of kills.

Good Cole: Amazing mid and long range poking and combo starter game, some mobility, consistently builds AP and threat of level 1 confirms. Handles pressure, even 2v1 pressure exceptionally. Problem being he can't pressure well in dubz.

Toro: Does a bit of everything and does it well, combos into and off of partners for ap bursts or kills. Able to stall supers with his trick at the top of the screen. Problem being what he does, someone else always does better, also can't rack up a lot of kills with his supers.
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#2dabuz(Topic Creator)Posted 1/30/2013 9:47:35 PM
Mid Tier:

Jak: Hard to hit character with lots of lockdown and setups for partner, able to interrupt every character easily. Really solid in every way except for the fact that he needs level 3 to get a lot of kills and against good teams, he struggles to build that much AP in 3 minutes.

Nariko: Takes advantage of openings created by partner or the general chaos of 2v2 and builds easy meter off of those openings, making it a reliable strategy to get her level 3. Pretty good at combat in all ranges but because her level 1 and 2 supers are bad, teams need to revolve around her getting level 3.

Sir Dan: His role in doubles is obvious, use that shield to counter projectile users and close the gap for him and his partner. His standard square combo lets his partner followup easily and Axe controls a huge space. Can't do much against mobile teams and his supers still lack potency.

Sackboy: Really good at creating a wall that him and his partner can hide behind and poke from, only losing the poke war to Ratchet. Somewhat good at being a support. Doesn't have much else in dubz, similar to nariko, most teams with him revolve around getting that level 3 or bust.

Spike: Character who excels at anti melee pressure and cornering opponents, decent supers for 2v2. Nothing too bad about him but isn't good at assisting his partner.

Parappa: Really good at closing gaps, moving around opponents, partner combos, and builds AP fast enough that using his level 2 is a reliable strategy since it's almost a guaranteed double kill. His big flaw is he can't lock down more than one person at a time and he can't support well, meaning he only teams with a few characters well.

Sweet Tooth: DOMINATES most characters at close range, against or with a team comp. that lets him get in, a 100 AP level 1 that is easy to land with one good read makes him a threat. Problem is he's not hard to keep out of melee range and render useless.

Big Daddy: Basically plays like ST but with crowd control, a slightly easier time getting in, and supers which are bad.


Low Tier:

Heihachi: Similar to the other melee characters, he needs to get in but it's difficult for him. Once he is in, he doesn't have crowd control or ways to stick to the opponent. Level 1 sucks outside of online false combos, level 2 is unreliable at best, level 3 is cinematic. Not really good at partner assistance.

Dante: Unsafe moves, doubles in too frantic for him to get his full combos off easily, needs to be at melee range but loses to most characters there.

Radec: It's Radec. He has linear projectiles, no way to keep opponents out, can't even build up meter against good players.

TL;Dr

Top:
Sly
FP
Kratos
Drake
Raiden

High:
EC
Ratchet
GC
Toro

Mid:
Jak
Nariko
Sir Dan
Sackboy
Spike
Parappa
Sweet Tooth
Big Daddy

Low:
Dante
Heihachi
Radec
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#3IcyFlamez96Posted 1/30/2013 10:02:45 PM
The only thing that stands out to me in this list is Radec at the bottom. I mean, I haven't looked in to character's 2v2 viability much but I wouldn't expect someone to think he's the lowest.
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#4mcnichojPosted 1/30/2013 10:07:54 PM
>Nariko
>Not high at the very least
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#5fuzzylittlbunnyPosted 1/30/2013 10:13:53 PM
Yeah I kinda thought that Radec would be higher. He's good at breaking your partner out of combos since he can save them full screen with his sniper rifle, and his O move (the sticky grenade thingy) is great to land while your partner is comboing someone, since it's just one quick hit that causes no knockback, in addition to the threat of the explosion later. Plus having a (competent) partner always makes landing his level 1 easier. As long as there's someone else attacking, it won't be as easy to just air dodge it.

...and not a serious thing, but when it's 2v1 it's hilarious to trap your poor opponent between 2 flamethrowers, alternating to knock them back and forth lol

I kinda would've expected Captain Manthong to be bottom, since his combos take a while, and his moves don't have very impressive hitboxes. He's definitely more comfortable when it's 1v1.
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#6Garfield64Posted 1/30/2013 10:48:21 PM
The first big tournament PSASBR showed up at the top 4 player in 2 vs 2.

2 of them had Narikos ^_^. Good Job on the Tier list lmao.
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#7blazin640Posted 1/30/2013 11:03:50 PM
dante is too low, but i would agree.

Dante can easily get full combos in 2v2. Its easy.
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#8Chzrm3Posted 1/30/2013 11:44:23 PM
Garfield64 posted...
The first big tournament PSASBR showed up at the top 4 player in 2 vs 2.

2 of them had Narikos ^_^. Good Job on the Tier list lmao.


That was also kill limit to 5. It takes Nariko mad long to get to a level 3 against good opponents. : >

That said, I think kill limit = 5 is the way to do 2 v 2. Timed just sucks in general.
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#9Lucarioaura22Posted 1/31/2013 4:01:25 AM
Garfield64 posted...
The first big tournament PSASBR showed up at the top 4 player in 2 vs 2.

2 of them had Narikos ^_^. Good Job on the Tier list lmao.


This proves nothing. The players in those videos suck and were just slighty above average skill than the rest of the trash at that tournament.
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#10blazin640Posted 1/31/2013 4:08:41 AM
Lucarioaura22 posted...
Garfield64 posted...
The first big tournament PSASBR showed up at the top 4 player in 2 vs 2.

2 of them had Narikos ^_^. Good Job on the Tier list lmao.


This proves nothing. The players in those videos suck and were just slighty above average skill than the rest of the trash at that tournament.


Until you play them, you don't have the right to say that.

But your point does still stand. One tourney means nothing compared to the world.
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