does sly get hit out of his level 1 easier now?
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Uh wat? His level 2 is a kill confirm off any hard knockdown making it just as viable as almost any level 2 for 1v1 purposes. His level 3 is a guaranteed 2 kills at a lower cost than most level 3s.
There are still multiple ways to set up his level 1 also (counter, alarm clock).
Sly is still a high tier character in 1v1 and is still broken as all hell in 2v2
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Counter confirm is beyond useless because it needs perfect timing to prevent an autotech, and you should be confirming it with a mine after the counter anyways. Aside from that there are quite a few characters that should almost never be stunned by Sly's counter if they respect it. His alarm clock is really not a great confirm by any means either. His level 2 is average for 1v1, I'll give you that, but really almost anyone's level 2 can assure a kill and going straight level 2s is definitely not a reliable way to win a 1v1 with Sly like it is for Kratos or Isaac. Level 3 is good but really he usually needs a level 3 and a level 2 to win a 3 stock 1v1 now. He probably doesn't really have any completely unwinnable matchups, but I honestly think he and Zeus should probably be switched in most tier lists and Sly should be a high-mid tier. I also don't really understand how hes broken for 2v2, he was certainly much better pre-patch and while he was easily a top 3 or so 2v2 character pre-patch, hes gotten considerably worse and I've heard more complaints about his 2v2 game post patch than I ever did before. I'm probably just uninformed because I don't care anymore, but from what I've been hearing lately hes literally almost the Kat of 2v2s, which I don't really understand. I would be interested to see this be explained if possible. Either way though, I honestly don't care about his placing on any tier list and I certainly never said he was a bad character now, I just said I don't enjoy playing as him anymore.
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